Patrick O’Brien, pictured, is a practicing attorney and a life-long resident of District 26. He is a former chair of Community Board 2
Aug. 24, 2021 Op-Ed By: Patrick O’Brien
I feel compelled to respond to the Op-Ed written by Marvin Jeffcoat on Aug. 18, titled “Why I Oppose Unconstitutional Mandates.”
I read it several times and concluded that it is not an Op-Ed piece at all but rather a thinly veiled advertisement in support of his quest to represent District 26 in the City Council.
As I read it, I was struck by the fear that he may have been overindulging in the toxic (and addictive for some) Kool-Aid that has been distributed by our former president, and virtually all current Republican elected officials in Washington, for far too long.
This was very disappointing as I know him to be a very good man. But, to me, his editorial does not appear to reflect any independent thinking, or any accurate, insightful knowledge of the U.S. Constitution. Rather it seems to parrot the inaccurate, uninformed, divisive, anarchistic, and decidedly un-American rhetoric and incitement that our former president conceived, cultivated, and seeks to perpetuate, and that virtually all elected Republicans in Washington and elsewhere lack the courage, decency, and common sense to condemn.
It is replete with tortured and insupportable constructions of our Constitution and our rights under it. Sadly, it seems more intended to appeal to a similarly misguided constituency, Republican or otherwise, than to the informed voting populace of District 26.
To suggest that individual rights should outweigh the need to take action against the serious and pervasive public health emergency that the Covid-19 pandemic presents smacks of the kind of political pandering that far too many seeking elected office stoop to these days. Marvin’s service in the military and to our veterans, and his service to our community in many ways, is admirable and worthy of praise. However, his interpretation of our Constitution could very well leave a blemish on that distinguished record that no political expediency can justify or remove.
The statement that “No emergency ever justifies a suspension of the US Constitution and our Rights!” lacks in accuracy what he intended it to provide in drama. This has been done many times in our history when dire circumstances require it. I think most rational people would consider this pandemic a dire circumstance (as did even our former President when he declared a national state of emergency last March). Examples of this include previous governmental responses to influenza, small pox, polio, mumps, and measles.
The authority for those responses, and any such current responses by the federal or state governments, is well grounded and long-established in constitutional, case, and statutory law. When it comes to public health and safety, both the Constitution and rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court going back almost 200 years give broad powers to both the federal and state governments to impose emergency measures to prevent the spread of dangerous diseases. This authority can be found in the 10th Amendment to our Constitution, which, among other things, grants the federal government broad authority to do so to prevent the spread of diseases from outside the U.S. and as a result of interstate travel. It also grants state governments similar authority to do so within their jurisdictions. In addition, there is statutory authority for the federal government to take such action by authorizing the Department of Health and Human Services to coordinate federal public emergency health and medical responses.
This authority has extended to such dramatic measures as shelter-in-place directives, isolation, quarantine, the seizure of private property, and even more stringent measures, that limit personal liberties in furtherance of a public effort to control emergency situations, such as the Covid-19 pandemic, and protect our health and welfare. Each has withstood constitutional and other legal challenges. Under the extant circumstances and the new dangers posed by the rapid spread of the Delta variant, I daresay that the imposition of masking and vaccination mandates is not only a constitutionally permissible exercise of governmental power but a commonsense measure that his arguments just do not stand up to.
In the desire to make his points, he seems to have equated his personal objections and that of others (to which each of them have an absolute right) with a violation of the Constitution and their rights under it. This is deeply flawed thinking, even if it was not motivated in whole or in part by political gain. He has confused those objections to putting these mandates in place with true transgressions against our Constitution. He has done so, in part, by posing a string of questions, most rhetorical, that he either answers incorrectly, without support, or not at all.
Moreover, while the foregoing is greatly problematic, the most difficult part of his editorial to understand or accept is the way it cloaks its assertions in constitutional terms seemingly as if as if the volume of such a rallying cry will drown out the voice of fact, law, reason, and a proper interpretation of our Constitution. However, I think equity and fairness would have required, at a minimum, he point out that, in addition to whatever personal opinions he has the right to express, both the federal and state governments have the authority to impose health measures to prevent the epidemic spread of deadly diseases such as Covid-19.
To be sure, many questions remain about this pandemic and how to defeat it. But, his editorial offers no constructive guidance or ideas as to how we can work, on either or both sides of the political aisle or otherwise, toward that end. Rather, to use his words, it raises “more questions than answers”, not about the pandemic, but about his fitness to represent District 26 in the City Council.
PS – I am neither a registered Democrat nor a registered Republican, and have no skin the in the political game. I am only motivated in writing this by a desire to save my skin and that of everyone else who could be affected by this pandemic and should not have that risk increased because of the opinions of a misguided few.
Patrick O’Brien is a practicing attorney and a life-long resident of District 26. He is a former chair of Community Board 2.
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News flash
Natural immunity appears stronger than Pfizer vaccine is the latest
In light of what happened in Kabul today O’Brien is incredibly disrespectful and tone deaf
Shame on him
The comments and posts predate the bombing. The guys not in the military anymore. He looks like he’s been out of the military longer than I have.
You mean fake news flash. COVID 650,000 times more deadly than vaccine. Fact!!
No scientific evidence for this This is not true
NO, it is true: seriously: natural immunity stronger than the vaccines.
My esteemed learned neighbor has demonstrated a masterful grasp of the English language, but legal fiction is still a dishonest tool used to circumvent the Constitution and his response is still full of conflicts and misleading statements.
Executive orders and mandates from unelected bureaucrats should not be allowed to substitute for the debate that should take place in legislative chambers before rules become law.
It’s strange that he would say I’m a good man because of my military service but not worthy of the respect one adult should show another with respect to making decisions about one’s bodily autonomy. It’s as if to say I’m chattel not worthy of thought independent from his yet good enough to be the beast of burden and risk my life in defense of our Republic. The subtle bigotry of low expectations and patronizing attitude of “be seen and not heard” is offensive to say the least.
We’ve seen this type of paternal dictatorship before from the Jim Crow south to Germany. It’s socialism and it’s evil period. We’ve also seen the type of caretaker mentality Patrick exhibits during the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. It’s not only offensive it’s dangerous.
Patrick claims no political affiliation but the liberal democrat global socialist machine seeking to exercise dominion and control over us owes him a debt of gratitude for doing its bidding.
His rebuttal also shows a lack of confidence in the experimental drug he so vigorously advocates for. If in fact it does work as a vaccine the vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. So why not respect our right to make independent medical decisions? Does he know whether my exposure to toxins in Iraq will adversely interact with the drug?
I leave it up to each citizen to decide whether the vaccine is safe for them based on their God given Constitutional right to consult with their physician and make an informed decision consistent with the Nuremberg Codes of 1947. Especially given that the drugs haven’t undergone long term studies to rule out potential hazards.
Marvin R. Jeffcoat
SFC, USA (RET)
God bless you Marvin especially in light of what is happening in Afghanistan
I have service members in my family and they respect you and your right to disagree with the likes of O’Brien a know it all who hides behind his desk while brave men and women like you save lives
Yesterday the Pentagon ordered all active-duty service members and reserves to be vaccinated with the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine days after the Food and Drug Administration granted it full approval. Troops who received another brand are still considered fully vaccinated.
As for freedom, mandatory vaccinations are not new for military members. Wasn’t for my father in WWII, my brother in Vietnam, or any of his boys and grandkids who served in the wars in the Middle East.
Let’s save ALL lives and get vaccinated. The life you save may be your own, your immunocompromised neighbor, your 5-year-old niece or nephew who is not yet eligible for a vaccine.
Respect the Badge (as I do), the vaccination rate for the NYPD is less than 50 percent. What’s up with that?
Garden’s watcher- It has to do with suburban Fox watching city hating anti union ( except their own union) and minority victim mentality.
Thanks my friend!
Thanks my friend
Hope that you and all those skeptical about vaccines will consult with your doctor and other medical professionals about the importance of getting a vaccine.
Per the CDC’s website (CDC.gov), the FDA has granted full approval for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on August 23 for ages 16 and older. The vaccine has been available under emergency use authorization (EAU) since Dec. 11 for those 16 and older, and for ages 12 to 15 since May 10. Moderna has also submitted their follow-up data and is awaiting their full FDA approval. J&J’s EAU came only in late February, so their application for full FDA approval will likely follow later this year.
EAUs allow medical products to be used without full FDA approval if there is a public health emergency. The company making the application has to submit data to the FDA from multiple clinical trials, and the benefits need to outweigh the risks before they are even granted an EAU. Much more extensive data and FDA review is required before a company is granted full FDA approval.
We are extremely lucky in this country to have three vaccines that have proven to be very effective against this novel coronavirus and its variants. I am very grateful for that, and for the courage it took for one of my extended family members to be a guinea pig in the early Pfizer trial. Happy to say that her antibodies levels are still strong.
We are in a pandemic, and Covid is a clear and present danger to all of us, not just a potential hazard. The Delta variant causes more infections and spreads faster than early forms of the virus. Virtually everyone who is being hospitalized right now for Covid in NYC are unvaccinated patients. Some are dying, and that could have been avoided if they had been vaccinated.
Please get vaccinated.
Correction to my post: EUA, not EAU.
As a Healthcare Practitioner with more than 50 years working in the medical field, I have to say this pandemic is serious and ALL people should be vaccinated
People are dying terrible deaths in ICU’s and begging for the vaccine while on ventilators in these Critical Care Units but it’s too late.
Talk with your doctor and get a medical opinion and not those of non-medical people. This is a horrible way to die!!
“ Executive orders and mandates from unelected bureaucrats should not be allowed to substitute for the debate that should take place in legislative chambers before rules become law.” Explain when where and by whom the conditions of your quote ever occurred. Any examples.
The kind of whataboutery jeffcoat poses is a typical anti-vax strategy called firehosing. It will rile up rabble but should not be taken seriously by normal people. Unfortunately there are places all over the country where it wins elections. Fortunately this is not one of them. Julie Won will wipe the floor with him if the virus doesn’t first!
O’Brien can’t help himself
Just another ambulance chaser looking for a gig
I am not a lawyer and more than likely will not vote for either the republican or democrat running for the District 26 City Council seat. What I am is an African American whose family migrated from the South to NYC during the late 1940’s and 50’s.
I was very disturbed to read Mr. O’Brien’s op-ed piece on the Republican District Candidate Jeffcoat’s op-ed on civil liberties, vaccines, and mandates. Though I may respect Mr. O’Brien’s critique I disagree with the White Male Privilege in which his perspective is rooted in.
Mr. O’Brien cannot understand why a “Black American” would speak on civil liberties, vaccines, and mandates in face of a public health crisis. Mr. O’Brien fails to mention or he simply forgot American history in which this same Supreme Court ruled in the 1856 Dred Scott v. Sanford that Americans of African descent, whether free or slave, were not American citizens and could not sue the federal court.
After the Civil War this same Supreme Court put forward in the 1892 Plessy v Ferguson case the separate but equal doctrine. This established the constitutionality of laws mandating separate but equal public accommodations for my ancestors and whites. We now know it as legal segregation. People like Mr. O’Brien are the same ones who were okay with this enforcement of the law because the Supreme Court set precedent. Unfortunately it took over half a century and a lot of blood shed of my ancestors to overturn this in the Supreme Court in Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka.
Did Mr. O’Brien forget or has his White male privileged eyes cause him to be blind to how this same Supreme Court in 1927 set precedent in the Buck v. Bell ruling upholding the states’ rights to forcibly sterilize a person unfit to create. This included African Americans, Latinos, the poor, deaf, blind, and other diseased. I remind you this was all done in the name of “Public Health and Safety”.
When Mr. O’Brien states Supreme Court precedents and justification for mandates he comes from this from a White Man’s perspective not understanding or simply not caring that the civil liberties Mr. Jeffcoat speaks on cost his and my ancestors tears, separation, shed blood, and death by lynching and burnings. This is something he and many white privilege persons don’t understand. Where were my ancestor’s public health and safety when the United States and Supreme Court ruled against them, passed laws and viewed them as less of than men and still do? We simply have to look at the 1994 Crime Bill that was passed by Congress that labeled Black men as Super predators and locked them away for decades.
Right or wrong Mr. Jeffcoat’s perspective to speak on civil liberties and his defense of it in light of a public health crisis should be respected. Many of you from the White Privileged Class couldn’t fathom being a African American person in America and most of you should simply stay silent. Just because the Supreme Court, Federal and State laws set precedent does not make it right. Look at our histories past and in doing so you should not repeat it. Yet many of you are willing to do so and cheering it on.
In closing it cost Mr. Jeffcoat’s ancestors and mine a whole lot to gain and keep those civil liberties. This is why it means very much to him and other African Americans in defending their liberties. My intention is not to insinuate that Mr. O’Brien is racist, but to help him and the white privilege class understand that the Supreme Court whose rulings, and Federal and State laws are made by flawed people whose intentions may or may not be good, and in doing so effect the lives of many others as I’ve shown as a few examples here.
Thank you for writing your answer to O’Brien who is unbelievably arrogant and presumptuous
My family is half minority and they were appalled by the privileged Mr O’Brien and by some of the comments of our privileged revolting neighbors
African American in District- Enough with the excuses already. You’re blaming every piece of legislation from the 1994 crime bill to the civil war. I know several “white” people who were also incarcerated for decades under the penalty provisions of that bill, several whom did well over 25 years in prison. You don’t mention anything about self accountability. Nobody forced anyone to drop out of school, take drugs, engage in criminal behavior and abandon parental responsibility. The acceptance of irresponsible and even criminal behavior is rampant in our community. The attached news clipping from Alabama where much of my family still lives illustrates this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jxMljF2QPQ
What a nannystater and soy boy this misguided lawyer is! Thank goodness he is no longer on the Community Board. He obviously does not realize that life carries a certain degree of risk and that no vaccine works 100%. I happen to be vaccinated but I know that others have chosen not to for various reasons: some valid, others frivolous. They should not be treated like lepers which is what this “lawyer” is suggesting. He can stay home and suck his thumb while the rest of us try to live our lives in a country which is increasingly taking away our basic freedoms. Nice shot at Trump that he took. He does know that Trump pushed the vaccines through in record time but being a good liberal – despite his claiming not to be partisan – he has to go for the cheap shot.
I’ll never understand why people some post without using their real names, particularly those who have anything negative to say or something that they think is bitingly witty, sarcastic criticism.
Is it that they lack the courage of their convictions, or that they are cowards hiding behind the safety of anonymity? Maybe it’s just that they enjoy taking potshots at people they don’t know, or are too ignorant or lazy to look beyond their nose and take a moment to think about what they are saying.
I don’t know but they would probably get more respect if they they just grew a pair and signed their posts using their real names.
Of course, they have a right to hide in what ever safe harbors they launch their remarks from. So I guess we will never know if they are well-intentioned or just jerks who want to sound off.
What gives socialists the right to censor free speech?
When I shared my opinion on mandates with the Sunnyside Post former Community Board 2 Chairman Patrick O’Brien responded with a smear against my character in an attempt to silence me.
As long as bullies are granted leadership roles in our community none of us will ever be truly free and united. I can understand why folks would remain anonymous and avoid the scorn, ridicule, and contempt shown those who openly oppose the machine’s agents. I pledged my life to the Constitution long ago and will not be bullied. As to the respondent who is not likely to vote for me, I wish there was something I could do to make them realize the alternative is more of the same but with increased intensity.
My esteemed learned neighbor has demonstrated a masterful grasp of the English language, but legal fiction is still a dishonest tool used to circumvent the Constitution and his response is still full of conflicts and misleading statements.
Executive orders and mandates from unelected bureaucrats should not be allowed to substitute for the debate that should take place in legislative chambers before edicts become law.
It’s strange that he would say I’m a good man because of my military service but not worthy of the respect one adult should show another when it comes to making decisions about one’s bodily autonomy. It’s as if to say I’m chattel not worthy of thought independent from his yet good enough to serve as a beast of burden and risk my life in defense of our Republic. The subtle bigotry of low expectations and patronizing attitude of “be seen and not heard” is offensive to say the least.
We’ve seen this type of paternal dictatorship before from the Jim Crow south to Germany. It’s socialism and it’s evil period. We’ve also seen the type of caretaker mentality Patrick exhibits during the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. It’s not only offensive it’s dangerous.
Patrick claims no political affiliation but the liberal democrat global socialist machine seeking to exercise dominion and control over us owes him a debt of gratitude for doing its bidding.
The socialists can’t win on public safety, education, and wealth creation so they intimidate with fear and mandates. Shame on them. It saddens me that instead of showing the leadership needed to unite us during this crisis he has chosen rhetoric that rubs old wounds and creates division among our diverse community. My fight is not with rank and file democrats, rather its with the socialists who’ve used and abused them for a century.
Could this be an indication that the democrat socialist machine controlling Western Queens is desperate? Did they send their leftist lawyer disguised as an independent to smear me because they don’t want their candidate Julie Won publicly defending her defund NYPD lunacy, her legalize all drugs policy, her legalize prostitution and the abortion it will create position, and the political indoctrination of school children with critical race theory she advocates?
His smear also shows a lack of confidence in the experimental drug he so vigorously advocates for. If in fact it does work as a vaccine the vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. So why not respect our right to make independent medical decisions? Does he know whether my exposure to toxins in Iraq will adversely interact with the drug?
I’m not anti-vaccine or pro vaccine. I leave it up to each adult to decide whether the vaccine is safe for them based on their God given Constitutional right to consult with their physician and make an informed decision consistent with the Nuremberg Codes of 1947. Especially given that the drugs haven’t undergone long term studies to rule out potential hazards.
Thank you mister Jeffcoat and god bless you
O’Brien is a shill for the far left and big government
He is disrespectful and dismissive
I would never hire him as a lawyer
You’re welcome and thanks my friend for saying so.
Nice holier than thou spiel Pat but you didn’t address the posters claims about you. Guess that says more about you than someone writing under a pseudonym.
“This was very disappointing as I know him to be a very good man.” Not when he spreads misinformation and outright lies.
So, anyone who disagrees with you is “not a good man”. Got it. BTW, I suspect you are a racist.
What have I said that was misleading? I believe I have a right to rely on the immunity my body produced after surviving the COVID attack on my body. Does that make me less of a good man? Or is it that I won’t shut up and do as I’m told by the socialist machine running our community?
@Marvin: Here are some responses to your comments:
(You)- “The CDC and manufacturers have said the vaccines do not prevent transmission of the virus. Doctors, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, have long acknowledged the virus defeats the porosity of masks. Yet the administration says we must be vaccinated and wear masks to protect others because vaccines work—period end of discussion. Really?”
(A)- The vaccines prevent severe illness and hospitalization like they were designed to. Having a vaccine that also stops the spread would’ve better but we work with what we have and saving people from hospitalization is a gift from god. End of discussion. Masks slow the spread and reduce the viral load. Fact!
(You)- “So, based on what we know are our God-given rights, what do the vaccinated have to fear from the unvaccinated if in fact the vaccines work?”
(A)- We fear the crippling of our healthcare system. Beds that can be used for cancer patients, heart attack patients and organ failure sufferers are being taken up by patients with severe Covid. How many people have died due to a lack of access because of the selfish and irresponsible behavior by the unvaccinated?
(You)- “Why do we need vaccines at all since there are cures available such as Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin? Do they pose more risk than chemotherapy?”
(A)-Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are not cures. Misinformation like this has put people in the hospital in such large numbers that the state of Mississippi had to takeout public service announcements about the dangers of ivermectin which is used to deworm livestock and pets. This misinformation is just adding fuel to the fire and you should be held accountable for your actions.
(You)-“If the vaccines don’t work 100 percent why are they being mandated? Do they have the moral and ethical authority to condemn a certain percentage of the population to debilitation or death?”
(A)-No vaccine has 100% efficacy and that has never been the goal. The vaccine has almost 100% efficacy in preventing severe illnesses and hospitalization. The small percentage are exclusively immune compromised, people you obviously don’t care about. This prevents the collapse of our hospital system.
(You) -“Do we know that weekly nasal swabs are safe and free of carcinogens?”
(Answer)-Yes.
I’ve allow you to waste enough of my time with your sham of an Op Ed.
Thanks Mac. I wish that Mr. Jeffcoat would spend more of his time researching the facts about natural immunity rather than railing against “political immunity.”
Protection from an earlier Covid-19 infection (natural immunity) wanes with time. No one knows for sure how long your immunity lasts once you’ve contracted Covid, or if your past infection produced enough antibodies to combat the more virulent Delta variant.
As the CDC states: “Vaccination is the best way to protect yourself, your family, and your community. High vaccination coverage will reduce spread of the virus and help prevent new variants from emerging.”
Even the military recognizes the need for vaccines and is now requiring it for all troops. They are not depending on natural immunity per the Secretary of Defense in his 8/24 memo:
“Those with previous COVID-19 infection are not considered fully vaccinated.”
Let the lawyer jokes begin
Isn’t everyone tired of ambulance chasers running this government and the city ?
If this lawyer caaaaaaares do much he can donate his salary to getting people vaccinated
Instead he will whine and complain
I may not have the grasp of English history that you do, but what does Henry V have to too with any of this?
I love lawyer jokes but I’ve heard most of them already. Got anything new?
The vaccines are free, Henry.
Amen!
This is a very well thought out wonkish counter-argument to Mr. Jeffcoat’s pea-brained word salad. But, again, Mr. Jeffcoat is not looking for nuance. He wants votes from the disturbingly sizable republican base in the district as well as the anti-establishment democrats who disdain the progressive majority – such as the pea-brained small town disinformation machine’s various cross posting social media aliases – to form a winning coalition.
It should all be moot anyhow. Mr. Jeffcoat should note that western Queens has one of the highest vaccination rates in the city, so if the ~75%+ rate serves as a proxy for the way this election will go, I don’t think we’ll need to worry about getting a Robert Holden-ish or Denise Keehan-Smith-like candidate elected locally. He will get thousands of votes, though, and that is an embarrassment to our community.
He scored less than 15% in the last general elections against JVB and Gianaris. I’m not worried he will put together a “winning coalition,” but I am worried this gives him a platform to spread disinformation about Covid and the vaccines.
District 26 Democrats held a wide-open, closely fought primary for JVB’s seat. Republicans and Conservatives cancelled their primary. So much for freedom of choice in the GOP.
Did I?
Yes, you lost twice with less than 15% per ballotpedia.org, and yes, you are spreading disinformation about our most pressing public health issue. You claim not to be anti-vaccine or pro-vaccine, but that is disingenuous and you know it.
I got the vaccine. Even Trump got the vaccine. Did you, Mr. Jeffcoat?
Your concern for the gop gardens watcher is as sincere as your concern for your neighbors
FYI— Gardens Watcher isn’t a member of the GOP. It is disgusting that the fight against Covid-19, including mask-wearing and vaccines, became political at all in this country.
Thank you for telling the truth in a very informed, clear, and intelligent manner.
In 1905, when there were 19000 cases of smallpox in the entire country, the US Supreme Court in Jacobson v Massachusetts asserted that the states had the authority to enforce compulsory vaccination. That authority has not changed.
Thank you, Mr. O’Brien, for the clarification.
Thank you sir- you are a voice of reason and sanity in a world that seems to be increasingly lacking those qualities.
We all sink or swim together in this pandemic. But Mr. Jeffcoat is appparently willing to poke holes in our collective lifeboat, if he can’t steeer it in his own selfish and uncaring path. In fact it sounds like he’d like to push everyone else out of the lifeboat! And that’s the very opposite of what a public servant (or a person seeking a public office) should strive to be.
Thank you for your very thoughtful response to Mr. Jeffcoat’s “deeply flawed thinking.”
Why does Fox News require all of its employees to wear masks? Didn’t they remember the narrative?!
Someone should ask Fox News for rent since they live rent free in this person’s head. Why the obsession with Fox? Did your doctor refuse to refill your prescription? Did you get turned down for a date and are feeling angry and depressed? Please get help!
Thank you. Well said.
Sometimes the oppressed turn into the oppressor just to survive. For now we just have to let it go. Or else White supremacy wins. Jeff is just trying to survive in a racist white male-dominated Arena.
Well. He still has a right to his opinion. Most comments are removed for stating something similar on this site and others. If he was not a POC he would of been cancelled for his views and more local politicians would of spoken up. But in this case it does not fit the script.
You want to know why people dislike lawyers? Read this nasty opinion piece by Lawyer O’Brien. He obviously has it in for a talented black man. Sunnyside/Woodside is a mess thanks to people like Lawyer O’Brien and he attacks a black man! Interesting that he took the Trump vaccine although he denigrates President Trump who pushed for its early release.
I guess this Patrick person works for Julie Won ?
After what he did to our community board he has a lot of nerve opining about anything
I would not let this o’Brian character run a lemonade stand