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Report: Crowley Will Remain Queens Dems Party Boss

Joseph Crowley

Sept. 17, 2018 By Tara Law

Outgoing Congressman Joseph Crowley has retained the chairmanship of the Queens Democratic Party–despite losing his primary to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in June.

The Queens Democratic Party voted 60 to four to reelect Crowley during a meeting at the Georgia Diner this morning, reported the New York Post.

Crowley, who has been the party’s chair since 2006, has been long known as a Queens “kingmaker” with powerful influence on party endorsements and appointments.

Although he lost by a wide margin to Ocasio-Cortez in June, his victory this morning suggests that he has managed to hold on to sway within the party, analysts said.

Among the four dissenting voters was Hiram Monserrate, who was elected a Democratic district leader for the 35th district last week, reported the New York Post.

Monserrate and the other dissenters backed Representative Greg Meeks for the position, according to the report.

Crowley and the Queens Democratic Party could not be reached for comment.

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JB

To Anon Crowley staffer,
Crowley, his family, and cronies should hang their head in shame for deceiving voters for so many years, so undemocratically getting his seat in Congress, and as Boss of Queens, and then intimidating anyone else off the ballot? and then using his power to corruptly get himself, family and cronies millionaires? That is the behavior of a communist dictator. Also, everyone see through the Crowley campaign of paint Ocasio-Cortez as a “communist”, so he can scare Republicans into voting for him, but he has the same positions on Medicare for all, and college tuition in NY, etc – that is Crowley – phony and dishonest til the end!

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anon

To Jordan, MB Et al, I’ll make this simple for you.
AOC = Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Chavez
Crowley = not a communist
Given the choice between these two, I gotta go with not a communist.

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[email protected]

Crowley staff obviously trying to deflect from his corruption, lies and illegitimacy by attacking articulate Ocasio-Cortez.

as posted quick google shows at least 20 credible articles on Crowley family and crony corruption – including one by famous journalist NY-1 Errol Louis, who moderated tv debate between Ocasio-Cortez and Crowley. Crowley family corruption is indisputable – that he is trying to use his Queens Machine to steal a seat in Congress again on the WFP line, is despicable?

… Try these ..
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-queens-machine-shaken-20180627-story.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lawyers-controlled-queens-dems-party-30-years-article-1.3017007

https://www.villagevoice.com/2017/05/18/the-queens-machine-that-turns-foreclosures-into-cash/

https://nypost.com/2017/05/14/queens-insatiable-crowley-clan/

https://nypost.com/2018/07/07/crowleys-lobbyist-brother-gets-millions-from-corey-johnson/

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/14/joe-crowley-congress-new-york/

And there are plenty more !

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anon

You keep posting the same screed. AOC is an admitted communist, not an alleged communist. If that is what she believes in, then be proud of it. I find it disgusting but that’s just me. Crowley is not my first choice, he’s what’s left. This is how Trump got elected, if you put up two turds people will have to pick one of them.

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anon

FYI -Huge difference between communism and socialism!! Crowley followed AOC’s lead and now also supports Medicare for all, college tuition. actually post office, public education are also “socialist principles” England and Ireland are communist, under our definition?
The only “communist” behavior in how Crowley stole his seat in Congress in, and his Machine intimidated any opposition, and how his henchmen forced Queens pols to vote for him as Boss of Queens, and he , his family and cronies all abused his power to get rich. That is the behavior of a communist regime ! Ocasio-Cortez won democratically – Crowley never has, not even in state assembly, where he used his uncle’s name recognition to get in. Don’t throw out false accusations without facts.

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Anonymous

VOTE FOR AOC SHE’LL GIVE YOU FREE STUFF! Nobody has to pay for it, and it won’t hurt the economy. She is Robin Hood.

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Anon

Joe Crowley has same political stances on Medicare , college tuition – she forced him to shift left and he did ! This is sad attempt by Crowley staff to deflect from his corruption and illegitimacy in office – to try to tear her down – Crowley is desperate.

Why won’t any Queens pols publicly support Crowley ?? Menu, Meeks, Peralta, Van Bramer,

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JBsunny

Typical Crowley – get his minions to do dirty work of insults, while he pretends to “nice guy”.

This article is about how Virginia Joe Crowley forced Queens pols to vote him in again as Boss of Queens, that is the election we are speaking of now But of course, he is running for his old seat in Congress – he trying to sneak in again , by getting his minions to paint her as a Communist, and hoping for the Republican vote, and his Queens BOE people, and minions to help. He could never win public office, on his abilities -he never has. Each stint in public office, has been a back-door , deceptive route.

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anon

She is an admitted communist, call it democratic socialist if you must, hope it makes you feel better. 2 + 2 does not equal 40 trillion, sorry if this offends you.

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Gardens Watcher

As for the “dirty work of insults,” the comments of the anti-Crowley crowd on this article have gone from bad to worse. They started the dirty smear campaign against Crowley. See my earlier post of their list of nouns and adjectives. Lies, innuendos, insults — tactics of true Trumpsters! Or maybe sore losers from the 2016 pres primary.

Fact: Crowley is NOT actively campaigning to retain his seat in Congress, so you’re wrong about that. He remains on the ballot on the WFP line, not the Democrat line. And he has won the general election ever since he got to Congress too. You’re latest inference of illegal actions by the Board of Elections is baseless and pathetic.

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anon

The only one who smeared Crowley was himself , with his corruption, lying about living in Virginia, and “winning” every election in Congress by getting his Queens Machine to scare any opponents off the ballot. They did not take AOC seriously, but Bolz et al, tried to get her signatures cancelled, but she had too many! Crowley supporters stop blaming everyone else for his greed and corruption – only he is to blame.

It is an open secret that Crowley hoping to sneak back into Congress again on the WFP line, or whatever – he has no pride- he will try to sneak back in even if he has to do with Republican votes.

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anon

Are Republican voters less important than Democrats? It is the general election, all votes count.That is how elections work.

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anonsunny

Another deflection comment from Crowley staff. Obviously Republican votes count! The fact that Virginia Joe Crowley trying to sneak into Congress, this time, by courting Republican votes, and getting his supporters to smear Democrat Ocasio-Cortez as a “communist” – is dishonest and slimy – Crowley has same stances as Ocasio-Cortez, but he letting constituents in her District believe she is a “communist” – typical slimy Crowley. He is so desperate to get back into office, to keep the money machine going for his family and friends, he will sell – out and do anything – deceive voters, get his minions to intimidate others, while he pretends to be a “nice guy”. Phony.

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anon

It’s obvious the Crowley family aka “Gardens Watcher” very upset about exposure of their corruption, illegitimate political seats, pathetic debate performances and lies about living in Virginia – so they have to try to belittle Ocasio-Cortez – give it up Crowleys! Joe Crowley never earned any of his political seats via legitimate talent or skill – and now he bullying Queens pols to vote him as Boss of Queens and donate to him as NY Joe!! What a joke Virginia Joe!!
It is an open secret that Joe Crowley and family desperately trying to hold on to power and steal back his seat in Congress using his dirty Queens Machine , led my Reich, Sweeney, Bolz, Martinez — and get Republicans and supporters to write him in on the WFP line – he lied in debate that he would support the Dem ticket if Ocasio-Cortez won – he juste needs the job, the only way he knows how to get into a political office is sneaking in, and corruption – what else could he do??? as per his own words in antun’s , where he dined with all us pols he bought off!

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anon

He does not need to be written in on the WFP line, he is the WFP candidate. I never imagined that I would openly be advocating for a Tammany candidate, but I must. The Republicans screwed up their chance to take back this gerrymandered district by putting up an imbecile. AOC’s positions are those of an uniformed child. After her CNN interview I can’t imagine any responsible adult voting for her. For all the talk of how intelligent she is, she is still very bad at math. “Vote for me I’ll give you free stuff” is no way to run a country. I despise Joe Crowley and everything he stands for, but he is the lesser of two evils. I will vote for Crowley on the WFP line as much as it sickens me.

As for the Democratic Party boss of Queens, that such a position exists is incumbent on Queens Democrats to explain. Donny Manes should have been the last.

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Gardens Watcher

Doesn’t the Queens GOP have a leader? How does the GOP decide which candidate gets to run on the GOP line? Or how about the Conservative Party line?

It’s OK to cross party lines and vote for another party, or to write-in a person’s name on your ballot in the November general election.
I know you know this since you seem like a smart, experienced voter. But some newer or less savvy voters are not aware of this.

As for how to vote for Crowley — either by marking the WFP box or by writing in his name — there is a difference. I believe both would be counted as a vote for him, but a vote on the WFP line will support the Working Families Party. I don’t know if WFP could “throw” their votes to AOC after the election or not, but a write-in would bypass that possibility.

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anon

In the general election WFP cannot change the person that you voted for, nor can they remove the candidate from their line. Write in votes are more likely to face challenges in a close election. Hold your nose and vote on the WFP line. If WFP could they would remove Crowley before the election, alas they can’t.
The GOP gave up on this district, that is how we have Pappas.

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Gardens Watcher

Yikes! I think “Anon” would be a better candidate than Pappas:)

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Gardens Watchers

I have repeatedly posted back to 9/26 that I’m not in any way connected to the Crowleys, and am not shilling for them either.

Why I am po’d is because I was immediately attacked from multiple posters as somehow illegitimately benefitting from Crowley’s re-election as Chair of the Queens Dems, and from his long tenure in Congress. That’s all BS and just a personal smear campaign to disparage me — just a Queens voter from the 14th Congressional district — and by implication, against Crowley.

I frankly could care less who is the Chair of the Queens Dems or the Queens GOP. Or even the DNC. None of these positions are public offices. They are intra-party jobs.

These posters don’t even know who the 60 votes came from in that Georgia Diner meeting. Yet they are so sure they all would have voted for Greg Meeks if it weren’t for “Joe and The Machine.” They say if only they knew his history — that Manton hand-picked Crowley as his successor, that he doesn’t live here 365 days a year, etc. Give me a break. They know. They are not as naive as you think.

Readers should ask themselves why are these posters soooo upset about Crowley’s role as Chair of the Queens Dems NOW? He has been Chair FOR YEARS, so why be outraged now? And do these posters even live Queens, or are they from The Bronx?

It is obvious to me that it is ALL about the Nov. election, and these posts clearly are coming from AOCs camp. To say otherwise is disingenuous.

So I fought back with facts, not conjectures and innuendos. And poked a few holes in Saint Alexandra’s veil in response to the posters.

The voters can pick who they want next month. That’s what’s gotten these posters scared and why all the mudslinging now. By the way anon, voters can blacken in the WFP box to vote for Crowley, or they can write in his name,
or anybody else they want as a write-in candidate.

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Anon in Sunnyside

What a joke ? Stop trying to spin this and blame Ocasio-Cortez for Crowley’s crimes and corruption? Queens voters are justified to angry that Crowley’s Machine forced Queens Dems to vote him in as Boss of Queens again -HE LIVED IN VIRGINIA – costing his childhood home in Woodside to see his mom, or getting his attorneys Bolz et al to put her house in his name – does not equal living here , or understanding our issues?? Bottom line – Crowley never legitimately earned or kept his seat in Congress – he abused his power to get family and friends rich , lobbyist brother etc – and proved inept in the first ever campaign he had to fight (against Ocasio-Cortez) because his used his Machine to intimidate anyone else off ballot . Give it up – he ripped off his voters long enough – how arrogant and corrupt . Stop blaming Ocasio-Cortez for Crowley crimes.

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MB

For the record , Crowley staffer “Gardens Watcher” is wrong – Crowley did not do well when he served in the state assembly before stealing his seat in Congress . In the google search , NY Times reported that Assembky colleagues of Crowley said he never did anything significant in the state assembly – and had done “nothing to distinguish himself” there. There was a lot of anger, accords to The NY Times about how Crowley was so undemocratically given his seat in Congress . Also – he never even earned his seat in the NY assembly ! Tom Manton chose him to run , using his recently deceased uncles (politician) name recognition ! He snuck into the state assembly seat also – at age of 24 with minimal experience ! At least Ocasio-Cortez won with her intellect and obvious intelligence. Sorry Gardens Watcher – Crowley is a really corrupt pol.

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Gardens Watcher

Sorry MB and the other AOC staffers on this Crowley-bashing tirade, but again, I am NOT a Crowley staffer, not a minion or lackey, not family, etc. Nor was I part of the Sept. 17 meeting so I can’t answer WHY Crowley was re-elected as Chair of the Queens Dems.

I’m just a voter who pays attention, and who looks forward to voting. There’s less than four weeks to go until Election Day!

So keep up the voter-bashing attacks on me. I’m moving on. Not a great public relations plan to attack the voters guys.

In my other posts, I discussed Crowley’s 20-year service SINCE 1998 when he was first elected to Congress. That is relevant since that’s the seat in play this year, not his Assembly seat.

You are digging deep to go back beyond 20 years to his Assembly days, but I have no direct knowledge of his time in the Assembly so I have no comment. Nor do I know which other candidates were considering running at that time. Like that really matters now?

But I can say the Assembly is a reasonable place to begin a political career, and so is city council. Neither Nixon nor AOC apparently believed that.

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JB

Gardens Watcher, sorry but you keep avoiding main points by distracting.
No on is attacking Crowley, just anger over his corruption, the fact that he lied to voters about living in Virginia since 2004, the fact that he snuck into Congress on a dirty deal, and stayed on by getting His Queens Machine to intimidate everyone who tried to oppose him, and finally the overwhelming corruption of him, and his family and his weak, undistinguished record in the State Assembly, and then sitting in Congress illegitimately for 20 years. These are facts – Joe Crowley cheated voters? and now he thinks he should live in Virginia and be our boss? This has noting to do with Ocasio-Cortez – he and his family were corrupt and greedy? It is well-documented?

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MB

Gardens Watcher – this is not Crowley bashing, – it is exposure of his corruption and lies, and how he illegitimately got into office, and forced Queens pols to make him Boss of Queens again.

You brought up Crowley’s career in the State Assembly – just pointing out that he was “handed” that seat as well, and did not earn it, and by all accounts, was “undistinguished” in the state assembly.

No one wants Crowley as Queens Boss (except you). All pols at that secret meeting to re-eelct him wanted Meeks, not Crowley – but were forced to vote for Crowley, or their careers would be over, – pls name any other pols who would publicly support Crowley as Queens Boss – Van Bramer, Meng, Peralta??? Parkside reward was not enough. stop blaming Ocasio-Cortez – Crowley is the corrupt one, who forced Queens pols to make him Boss of Queens- and who corruptly used his seat in Congress for 20 years to enrich his family and cronies? Why blame her for his greed and corruption?

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Gerry

Except Crowley used his illegitimate time in office for corruption, lying, living in Virginia ! And enriching his family and cronies . Sad.

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J.Mahoney

It seems pretty obvious that “Gardens Watcher” is a Crowley family member or staffer – who still has not explained why Crowley should be Boss of Queens Dems when he lives in Virginia?

Also, I read these very credible stories of Crowley family corruption in the Daily News, NY Post, Village Voice and more — how come this paper never informed us? or other Queens papers? Its the Crowley Queens Machine intimidates everyone – do they “own” this paper, and other Queens papers also? Why haven’t we been told the truth about Crowley? Who owns this paper?

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Gardens Watcher

Final Jeopardy question: Why did Crowley get re-elected as the Chair of The Queens Dems? Because those in the meeting voted for him to be their Chair with 60 votes to 4 for the other contender. They know where he lives and re-elected him anyway with an nearly unanimous vote!

So move on, this vote is over. Plus the glue on your “Virginia Joe” sticker is not very effective.

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anon

Yes they were forced to vote for Virginia Joe as Boss of Queens, or the his Machine would have ended their careers. None of them will admit they voted for him publicly, nor would they put it in writing – just a voice vote. If it were private vote, written ballot – and if they knew they could vote him out without retribution , they say they would not have voted for him. Would anyone there publicly support him as Queens Boss – no!!

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Anon

Sorry Gardens Watcher – you seem really passionate about Joe Crowley – but it’s pretty obvious those pols were forced to vote for him by the Queens Machine , or they would lose their jobs.

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Gardens Watcher

Pretty obvious? How is that so when you can’t name who else was in the diner meeting?

If they are elected officials, the voters will decide if they keep their jobs or not. As for the others, it’s just conjecture on your part.

Not one of you has answered why sooo angry about this now, when Crowley has been Chair of Queens Dems for 12 years?

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Gardens Watcher

Again, I am not related to Crowley, have never worked on any of his campaigns, am not a “Crowley minion,” and resent and reject whatever negative connotations you are trying to assign to me and that term.

I have legitimately voted for Crowley every time he’s been on my ballot since 1998. That’s because he did a good job and he absolutely gained valuable experience, and he cast tough votes — something AOC cannot claim since she’s NEVER held public office. I agreed with his positions on most issues and I supported his votes for the vast majority of the time.

Before his first 1998 House election, he served in the NYState Assembly from 1987 to 1998. That was back in the day when politicians gained experience in public service before jumping into the race for one of the top jobs in the district (like AOC) or in the state (like Cynthia Nixon failed to do).

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BrenRend

“Gardens Watcher” – you must be a direct beneficiary of Crowley corruption, angered that your cash cow Crowley was voted out !

But you deflect as you obviously can’t refute the main reasons voters are so fed up with Crowley –

He lives in Virginia and arrogantly get his Machine to force Queens pols to vote him in as Boss of Queens.

He lied to voters for about 14 years – saying he lived in Woodside, when he now admits he lived in Virgina ?

He, his family and cronies are corrupt, used his office to get rich – and abuse his power . There are many credible allegations.

Most importantly – he never legitimately held his seat in Congress – he was “installed “ in a dirty political deal to be the puppet of the Queens machine – and anyone who challenged him was bullied off the ballot . It was reported in the national media and mentioned by Michael Moore that all the Queens pols were afraid to be seen with AOC
during her campaign , in fear of the wrath of Joe Crowley and his corrupt machine. He is a bully.

And – he was pathetic in the debates! People are angry due to all of his greedy family, corruption and lies. His minions , like you , say he has “experience” – that was not apparent in the debates- and Just because he sat in Congress illegitimately for 20 years – getting himself and his family rich – doesn’t mean he is “experienced” or good for his District – corrupt Crowley must go.

If you can refute any of these allegwtons with facts – will make a correction – if not , let Crowley go off and start a legitimate life – and let AOC do her job – she was genuinely elected, and he NEVER was.

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Gardens Watcher

Bren Rend & family of Rends:
Check Wikipedia for info on Joseph Crowley. Fact: They explain the details surrounding his first election in 2004 way better than you do — and it’s no secret either. It also shows re-election results for each subsequent election — all legitimate— and the fact that he has risen to be the 4th most powerful Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Direct beneficiary? Cash cow? What are you talking about? Fact: Nobody’s paying me for my posts in any way! I didn’t watch the debate. Don’t know anyone who did either.

I wonder why you keep regurgitating the same old talking points? Why so angry about the law firm in particular? Sounds like a personal beef.

Let’s let the voters decide who they want for their representative in Congress. Fact: You don’t get to decide that, nor do you get to decide what Crowley should do with his life.

Fact: AOC is still a Congressional candidate. She doesn’t have the job yet.

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edrend

Gardens Watcher
It was reported in the NY Post and other publications that Crowley, or his staff, amended Wikipedia (anyone can change wikipedia, and Crowley apparently hired PR people to do it, for example, getting them to change Queens College, to City University of NY!!), and to change the corrupt details of how he “inherited” his seat in Congress, and to delete the fact that he lived in Virginia, and had deceived constituents. You still can’t answer why Virginia Joe should be Boss of Queens????
It is an open secret that Joe Crowley minions hoping, and working, that Joe Crowley will sneak back into Congress on the WFP line, using the Machine, and their supporters working in BOE, the pols who are in his pocket, to coerce and fix votes for him. How pathetic. He was never legitimate. His staff wrote his wiki profile. WFP begged him to get off their ticket – but arrogant Crowley refused, with lame, false excuses. The only way Crowley could get into office, is sneaking in. That is whole history???

Just because Crowley sat there for 20 years, living in Virginia, does mean he is ‘”experienced”. You and supporters still won’t let go to of the money you all earned through his abuse of power.

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Gardens Watcher

FYI Crowley’s Wikipedia page lists that he graduated from Queens College with a degree in political science. When you click on the word “Queens College,” you will get the page link for “Queens College, City University of New York.”

That’s because Queens College IS one of the colleges in the City of New York system!

And you’re damn right I’m not “letting go of my money” that I earned myself with NO help from Crowley. You’re no Robin Hood either.

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jm

yeah, but it was reported that crowley changed his wikipedia page to delete the fact that he lived in virginia. also omitted how he was “installed” in his seat in congress, instead of voted in, and also changed queens college to city university of ny, which sounds better? not sure why he did it – ask him?
you can’t refute any of the corruption charges, or the lies about living in virginia, nor the way his Machine forces Queens pols to vote him in as Boss of Queens again? “Gardens Watcher” just angry that it is all being exposed?

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Gardens Watcher

He remains the Chair of the Queens Democratic Party since the members of the Democratic Party who were in that meeting RE-ELECTED HIM. This was not a public vote, and why are you soooo outraged about this anyway?

FYI Manton held onto his Chairmanship post of the Queens Democratic Party for a few years after he stepped down from Congress too.

There is no official title as “Boss of Queens.” either.

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anon

Tom Manton did not live in Virginia!!! What part do you not understand. No one thinks a pol who lives in Virginia, and who is as corrupt as Crowley, should be Boss of Queens – except you!

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Gardens Watcher

Now you’re really stooping low by accusing him of election fraud with your comment: “coerce and fix votes for him.” Whoa amigo, with NO whiff of evidence? That’s pathetic.

Again, you’re doing AOC no favors with this kind of trash talk. With the number of posters using similar talking points, I beginning to suspect this IS being directed by the AOC campaign.

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jm

FYI – anyone can make changes and write what they want in Wikipedia. Well-know in D.C. that politicians edit their own Wikipedia pages, to look good, NY post reported that Crowley omitted entry that he actually lived in Virginia. Not a reliable source to refute corruption charges?

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Gardens Watcher

Clarification on dates: Crowley still represents the NY 14th congressional district, and has done so since 2013. The district’s boundaries were redrawn for the 2012 election, and he represented me as a resident of Sunnyside Gardens in the 7th district from 1999 to 2013.

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Neutral Observer

Just read all the new posts by “Gardens Watcher”!!
Who seems unaware of Crowley corruption?? quick google shows at least 20 credible articles on Crowley family and crony corruption – including one by famous journalist NY-1 Errol Louis, who moderated tv debate between Ocasio-Cortez and Crowley. Crowley family corruption is indisputable – that he is trying to use his Queens Machine to steal a seat in Congress again on the WFP line, is despicable?
BTW Gardens Watcher the ‘Washington Post’ is Fake News- even our President says so … Try these ..
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-queens-machine-shaken-20180627-story.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lawyers-controlled-queens-dems-party-30-years-article-1.3017007

https://www.villagevoice.com/2017/05/18/the-queens-machine-that-turns-foreclosures-into-cash/

https://nypost.com/2017/05/14/queens-insatiable-crowley-clan/

https://nypost.com/2018/07/07/crowleys-lobbyist-brother-gets-millions-from-corey-johnson/

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/14/joe-crowley-congress-new-york/

And there are plenty more !

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anon

How can Crowley steal the seat if he gets more votes than overly attached socialist AOC(ya gotta see the meme) and the nut that is running on the Republican line? This is what you want isn’t it? A true election between equally despicable people. No surprise primary, a real election. Just promise more free stuff and the mindless voters will come. I just don’t want to pay for it, forgive me. One other thing Errol Louis is a journalist? Hysterical.

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disgusted in sunnyside

One thing for sure – Errol Louis and Ocasio-Cortez are more intelligent, well-spoken, and educated than Joe Crowley – but most importantly they earned their lives – they didn’t cheat their way into jobs, the way Crowley stole his seat in Congress for 20 years, first by inheriting it in sneaky political deal, and then getting his Queens Machine to bully away anyone who tried to run against him for the next 20 years. If Crowley staff ‘s only refute to the many credible corruption charges are a petty meme on an intelligent, articulate woman AOC, and an attack on a Harvard and Yale, educated, well-respected journalist, and by calling Ocasio-Cortez a socialist (she has same stances as Crowley btw) – than it’s no wonder Crowley always had to cheat his way into office. We deserve better, smarter reps.

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Gardens Watcher

AOC proudly calls herself a “democratic socialist” and she is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and has their endorsement. That is a fact.
FYI, DSA’s membership nationally was only 50,000 on Sept. 1.

The DSA backed Bernie in the 2016 primary, despite the fact that even HE didn’t totally fulfill their aim of “establishing social ownership of the economy.” (See DSA Wikipedia page). After Bernie lost the primary, the DSA called for the defeat of Trump, BUT did not endorse Hillary. Gee thanks for your non-help, DSA.

I agree she seems smart and is articulate. The camera sure likes her and she seems to like the camera and all the media attention, maybe a bit too much.

She even has a degree from BU in economics and international relations. So one would think she would be able to explain where she would get the money to pay for all the free democratic social programs she is proposing.

But when Jake Tapper of CNN asked her about this recently, she couldn’t really answer him. She has now become the lightning bolt for Fox News and now KA Conway, two of my most unfavorites, with her bumbling answer. She’s a student of economics, and should have a better answer.

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Gardens Watcher

I had to look it up, since I didn’t remember him being primaried before this year. But found out that he was primaried twice before and handily beat his opponent both times.

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Gardens Watcher

To disguisted in Sunnyside:

Fact: I never said AOC didn’t earn her life, or that she cheated her way into her waitress job, or before that into her job with Bernie.

Fact: Crowley backed Hillary in the primary. Are y’all still mad at him about that? Geez.

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Gardens Watcher

In response to Neutral Observer’s comment that WaPo is “Fake News — even our President says so.”

Oh wow. Maybe you are all indeed just Trumpsters and all these anti-Crowley rants are just a Kabuki dance to make sure AOC gets into office??? So the GOP can use her as a lightning rod to scare voters into voting for GOP candidates nationwide???

Kellyanne Conway is already starting to do that with AOCs CNN interview with Jake Tapper.

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Gardens Watcher

To edrend,

In response to your comment: “this not personal attacks on Crowley, “ here is a list in alphabetical order, of the 25 nouns and adjectives used to describe him in these comments so far:
A joke, arrogant, bully, bum, bumbling fool, cheater, clueless, con artist, corrupt, criminal, crooked, desperate, dumb, exploiting his kids, fool, inept, hapless, illegitimate, incoherent, lapdog, not smart, liar, loser, Moscow-style, phony.

Spare us another cut-and-paste response. I’m done with this thread. Will make my case on another more credible post: The Washington Post.

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Gardens Watcher

Perhaps AOCs minions could put their thoughts in a letter or e-mail to the Congressman with their real names instead of initials.

AOC, If this is your army and you’re OK with these personal attacks, and this tone and rhetoric, your campaign is in trouble.

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edrend

to this anonymous “garden watcher”

Read carefully – this not personal attacks on Crowley, just facts. Please correct any that are untrue.

Crowley lied to constituents about living in Virginia since 2004. (in official interviews also).

Crowely inherited his seat in Congress in a dirty, backroom political deal with Tom Manton, and his corrupt Queens Machine intimidated any opposition off the ballot. Joe Crowley has never been legitimate in his seat in Congress for 20 years, nor as Boss of Queens – it was all manipulated by the Queens Machine, not based on any talent he has, or skill? A phony life, maybe now he has a chance to do something of merit, and earn his life, instead of stealing it?

Crowley siblings, lobbyist brother, family members, cronies Sweeney, Reich and Bolz, Martinez, have become millionaires corruptly using courts, and his office. Crowley corruption is well-documented. Look up Joe Crowley corruption, nepotism, courts, lobbyist brother, three lawyers control Queens etc. These are facts. Crowleys have been bullying people for years, and put on a facade of “honest folk”.

His recent. re-election as Boss of Queens Dems, when he lives in Virginia, was a Moscow-style vote – None of the Queens pols there, who say they were coerced to vote for Crowley again by the Queens Machine, will admit it publicly? Voters would be outraged.

Any independent witness of the two debates between Crowley and Ocasio-Cortez knows she outsmart him, and outperformed him in every way. It was not a ‘bad night” , twice, he just blabbered, and did not understand issues in his own District, and he was incoherent, and obviously in the pocket of big donors, and real estate developers and Wall St.

Maybe “Gardens Watcher”, should stop being anonymous, and defend these points in an open editorial? If any of the above points are false, I will correct them, for the record?

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ed rend

This is so sad? Joe Crowley admits he has been lying to constituents about living in Woodside since 2004 when he actually moved to Virginia for better schools in 2004 , lied again and said he has been lying in Virginia to “spend more time with his kids”, exploiting his kids!, because Congress is only in office 130 days a year, so that does not even make sense!! (if anyone saw 2 debates Crowley bothered to show up for, with Ocasio-Cortez, very obvious he is NOT smart, informed, or articulate). How can he admit to living in Virginia for better schools, and quietly get his Queens Machine to force Queens pols to vote him as Boss of Queens?? from Virginia??? he is a joke!! He never even earned his seat in Congress legitimately? Why did the Queens pols who voted for him, in a secret diner vote, refuse to put their vote in writing? or answer to the press about how they voted in Crowley as Boss of Queens, when he lived in Virginia? Joe Crowley’s only power is his Queens Machine, led by his corrupt cronies, Sweeney Bolz, Reich, his lobbyist brother and his brother-in-law Martinez. They are are the greedy brains behind the inept fool Joe Crowley — and they are all desperate to keep their cash-cow and puppet, Joe Crowley in office. It’s time to go Joe!! and let some legitimately elected people do the jobs you stole by bullying for years – your seat in Congress and Boss of Queens Dems? How dare you think you should be boss of Queens when you don’t live among us???? Your minions , who are the only ones who wrote positive things about you in this paper, need their corrupt money flow though your influence, but you are a waste of space, and have zero intellectual capacity – bullying people to vote for you, for so many years, is not power, or talent — it is pathetic. Escape with the millions your family and cronies stole illegitimately during your illegitimate years in Congress, and as Boss of Queens. and sit in Virginia, enjoying the millions you stole from your “constituents” in Queens and the Bronx. Stop your “holier than thou” , nice guy facade – you are one of the dirtiest politicians in Congress – get out , stop running against Ocasio-Cortez, and get out of Queens. Move on- you milked Queens and the Bronx enough!!

p.s.notice none of the Crowley minions who defended him here, can refute that he got his seat in Congress illegitimately , “appointed” as if he was in Moscow, by Tom Manton, and then Joe Crowley used his Queens Machine to intimidated all who tried to challenge him – so effectivly he sat in Congress for 20 years, living in Virginia for most, lying to his “constituents” , and never legitimate?? What a joke?????

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Gardens Watcher

Why the same scread under multiple screen names? Wonder which post has the most number of characters? I stopped reading after first few sentences.

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Gardens Watcher

While I never liked the way Manton essentially snuck him into office, I was pleased with how he represented my interests in his long tenure in Congress. I was proud that my Congressman rose through the ranks to earn a senior spot in the minority party in the House. Based on his record, I thought he deserved another term, and he surely was in line to be Speaker one day.

He knows his stuff and if the Queens Dems chose him as their leader, that’s their right. But to call him a crook or con artist is frankly irresponsible and kinda rude. The Dem lefties need to tone it down. No need to eat our own.

He had school-age kids and it’s logical to me that he would want to be a good dad and help raise them. So the fact that he lived primarily near his job in DC rather than in Woodside is no big deal folks. You really expected him to commute on a daily basis to DC? AOC, if she wins in November, won’t do that either.

His job deals with national issues for the most part, not the micro local issues, which are the purview of our state Senator Gianaris, our state Assemblywoman Nolan and city Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer. So not sure why people are upset that he didn’t focus so much on micro local issues. Not his job.

Primaries are always held in September around here, not June, and only about 12% of Dems voted anyway. He hadn’t been primaried before to my memory, so my guess is a lot of voters just discounted AOC and didn’t bother to vote. After her win, AOC said something like “we got our people out to vote,” which I took as a bit of a racist statement. So one could say she won in a bit of a sneaky way too. Hardly a mandate and Nixon lost to Cuomo in the recent primary, so she’s not a definite shoe-in. And I’m not thrilled with how she jumped onto national TV right off the bat, which struck me as a bit presumptuous, especially since Crowley will still be on the ballot in November. Some of her positions I think go too far, and she really is a novice.

So I was torn on who to vote for in Nov.,—- until this week. The Kavanaugh hearings have galvanized my resolve to make change, so unless she slips up before Nov. AOC will get my vote.

Just like Trump, some of you need to just shut up and get to work.

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M.B.

Crowley does not deserve another term in Congress – he never should have been to Congress in the first place? He “inherited” his seat from Manton, and then the Machine threatened off any challengers because Crowley was their puppet and helped everyone get rich. He is a crook. AOC won legitimately – HE NEVER WON A SINGLE TERM IN CONGRESS LEGITIMATELY. When Dems in Washington found out how Crowley got into office and stayed in office, he would not have become speaker.
AOC also crushed him in the debates – he was embarrassing, to put it mildly. Crowley lied about living in Virginia – if it was ok , why lie for so many years??? And the argument of Crowley using his kids as an excuse for lying, now saying he lived in Virginia suburbs to be near his kids is a lie, as Congress is only in session 130 days, so if he wanted to be with his kids more, he would have lived in Queens?

Everyone knows Crowley is refusing to get off the WFP line, despite the fact that WFP does not want him as their candidate, and has begged him to get off? How arrogant of Crowley??? He is desperately hoping to get his Queens Machine to do dirty tricks, and sneak into Congress again, on the WFP line. This article was about him sneaking in as Queens Democratic Boss again? Why should the Queens Boss live in Virginia? Can anyone answer that? Why should Crowley run against AOC? on the WFP line? He lied in debate, as he said he would work hard for AOC if she won the primary, now he is running against her??? Bottom line is Crowley used his office in Congress and as Queens chief to get his cronies and family rich, he was never legitimate in Congress, he bumbled in the debates like an imbecile. Time to move on – Crowleys milked the system for 20 years — enough is enough.

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Gardens Watcher

WFP endorsed Crowley before the primaries. That’s why he’s still on the WFP line on the ballot.

They can cry all they want now that AOC won the Dem primary, but WFP is trying to stay afloat and will do it via any means necessary.

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Gardens Watcher

Is anyone else getting tired of watching AOC prematurely grabbing the national news media microphone and seeking the national spotlight? She needs to pay attention to her own race.

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Gardens Watcher

Readers should note the dates on each post. They are not in chronological order anymore.

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Juanajuana

Crowley was caught on camera years ago in Arlington driving his kids to school
Having said that he is better than the socialist lady who won the primary and blathers cliches
She is an embarrassment
This is what happens in a one party area

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rb

But Joe Crowley jumped on her bandwagon , and agreed he wanted Medicare for all, and tuition help etc, he moved left .
he will say whatever he needs to stay in office, as his whole family and many friends have become rich through that office.
how are his police any different to hers? he is worse, he caters to luxury real estate developers and wall st?? anyone is better than a crowley, who sat there for 20 years, never officially voted in . we should thank her for getting rid of him!

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BR

What a mess
A Queens Democratic Party Leader who has been living in Virginia for years.
I will vote for Crowley against a socialist on the Working Family Party line.
Note this is a protest vote against Ocasio-Cortez.
Not for Crowley, who is Nancy Pelosi’s lap dog.

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gerry m.

This newspaper should print the names of all the Queens politicians who re-elected Crowley in this secret vote? None of them will comment or admit that they re-elected a guy who lives in Virginia to be chief of Queens?

Can this paper serve Queens residents and publish in all the Queens papers, the names of the politicians who voted for Crowley?

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LIC Neighbor

Corrupt, corrupt, corruptoids. Cathy Nolan, Jimmy Van Bramer, Joe Crowley, and the corrupt lawyers (Gerard Sweeney, Michael Reich and Frank Bolz), the powerful attorneys who serve Rep. Joe Crowley and who control Queens politics are running scared as the the Hispanic/Latino/East and South Asian movement which is reflective of the demographics in Queens is rising and participating in the process. As more and more minorities take hold and participate in the electoral process the old face of politics in the borough will change, pushing them out. For now these new faces
in local Qns politics will have to kiss their pinky finger rings. Hopefully these new politicians of minority extraction will stay true to their constituents, represent us all and keep themselves honest and not follow the corrupt JVB, Joe Crowley, Cathy Nolan example.

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gerry o

Joe Crowley is a criminal also, he just puts on a phony facade – he used his office to get his friends and family rich-and he just did a sneaky diner vote to win position as King of Queens, I bet he used his include to get his kids into free college also – only way he knows how to get ahead in life is cheating his way in! which criminal is worse?

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Juana Juana

One crazy Dem party! Crowley lost to a novice who does not have a clue. Good luck, hapless voters. You brought this disaster on yourselves.

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ryan g.

Crowley is the hapless one! did you see debate with Ocasio-Cortez??? he was bumbling, clueless about issues in Queens and Bronx, and she was articulate – it was embarrassing. At least she is smart. He never got into office legitimately – he “inherited” his seat on Congress through the Queens Machine to be their “puppet” and make Reich, Sweeny Bolz and Crowley family millionaires . Crowley s are more corrupt than most. Joe get out ! The voters booted you out.

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Suncoast

Prior to the primaries, Crowley flooded my mailbox with his campaign literature. I even found his flyers under my apartment door. What a waste of resources and energy.

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Gardens Watcher

Smart voters who have been around the block don’t vote based on a one-night performance in a debate.

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Ed

Joe Crowley made a fool of himself in both debates – and didn’t bother showing up for the others ? He is not a smart guy – he would be nothing without the bullying tactics of his henchmen in the Queens Machine ?? He never even won his seat in Congress legitimately ? It was “appointed” in a secret deal, and then Machine scared away anyone who tried to run against him? he never achieved a yet based on on his own talents ? Actually , a very sad life?

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Anonymous

Another dirty deal by Crooked Crowley. Crowley lost to Ocasio-Cortez due to his arrogance, neglecting his District. He spent his time in Washington worrying about his own career, and used his office to get his cronies and family wealthy. He had to do a secret vote to get re-eelcted as Queens boss – he would have lost if the public knew. He even got killed by Ocasio-Cortez in his “home” town of Woodside. How can our Boss of the Dems live in Virgina? How does this happen in a democracy!

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Disgusted!

We the citizens, taxpayers and voters are ALLOWING this nonsense to happen to our country! We are GIVING our country away! Sad!

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jody

Joe Crowley has lived in Virginia since 2004. lied to constituents, he visits his mother in Woodside occasionally. He wants to stay boss of Queens because he has used that office to make his family and cronies multi-millionaires, control the courts, and they all got rich, including him.
This is not Moscow Mr. Crowley – leaders get elected here, not chosen in diners, closed to the pubic. If the public knew a vote was imminent on your re-election, you would never as Queens boss again! what a joke?

Same way Joe Crowley got into Congress 20 years ago, he “inherited” his seat in a back room deal by Tom Manton, and for the next 20 years his Queens Machine kept everyone off the ballot, intimidating anyone who tried to compete against him. They did not take Ocasio-Cortez seriously but even his minions and lawyers tried to get Ocasio-Cortez’ signatures disqualified at the Board of Elections.

Joe Crowley acts the nice guy – but is corrupt and ruthless behind the scenes. Give it up Joe! Have some integrity – are you really that desperate that you have sneak into office again? – you sat in Congress illegitimately for two decades – you stole enough ? Move on!

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MAGA again

Why are you bashing Moscow? A true patriot supports Russia and Putin the way our president does!

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Gardens Watcher

Jody, please get a clue. And chill out a little.

This was not an election for the public to vote on. This was a private vote within the Queens Democratic Party. If you’re not registered as a Democrat, you’re not in the party and have no say in its workings. Period. If you’re in the party, then get involved and work to make change.

It’s pretty easy and frankly cowardly to type nasty insults and hurl retread innuendos at someone. Crowley has been re-elected many times and has served this district well. If his fellow Dems in Queens want him to stay on, that’s their choice, whether you like it or not. Move on!

The rage against “The Machine” cry may have sounded good to some ears like Cynthia Nixon’s, but it certainly didn’t work for her and voters are smarter than that. Plus now it’s a pretty hollow worn-out chant.

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MB

This is obviously written by one of Crowley’s minions who has become a millionaire through corruption and does not want to lose his cash-cow!!

Watch the debates – Crowley is not a bumbler, if you check the records he never got into office legitimately – his dumb argument that he lived a wealthy suburb of Virginia to be near his kids, is exploiting his kids disgustingly – he moved for the schools there, and if he really wanted to spend more time with his kids he would have them live in his District, where he should have been , but ignored it, hence he lost!!

If the politician who voted for Crowley to be the Boss of Queens again , were so proud of voting for a guy who lives in Virginia ? why are they ducking and diving ?? They won’t admit to constituents? Crowley is a phony ? There are many credible allegations of corruption against him, his family, cronies, google Crowley corruption , nepotism, courts , sisters, brother , lobbyist, he is milking Queens for the benefit of his family. It is time for Democratic leadership to know what he is really viewed as in Queens ,and how illegitimate he is. No matter what his minions say here he is trying to sneak into office on the WFP and trying to screw over AOC, he is a cheater, and the only way he knows how to get into elected office, is sneaky, backroom deals and plots. Give it up Joe, get a life – you sat in Congress illegitimately for20 years – you and your family became millionaires off the back of constituents, give it up!!

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mm enroe

the only ones who think that Crowley has served his District well, are the his cronies and family who became millionaires? He make occasional visit to his mother in Woodside, lives in a wealthy suburb of Virginia for the school districts (Queens PS not good enough!), and he is so arrogant that he believes he should live in Virginia and be boss of the Queens Democratic Party ! He is an arrogant , greedy, fool. Comments from Gardens Watcher obviously are from one of the many who lose out financially if he is not Queens Boss of Dems, and in Congress. Boo Hoo – you won’t make millions anymore at the expense of voters in Queens and Bronx. Crowley was never legitimate in Congress, and he should feel luck he got away with sitting there for 20 years, never earning it by his talent. Move on Joe!

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Gardens Watcher

To the twin aholes, MB & mm enroe (who sound like the same poster child):
For the record, I am not a Crowley minion or one of his family members. I earned my money the old-fashioned way: I EARNED IT! By working my butt off for others for YEARS and then was smart enough to start my own business, which I ran for 20+ years. I am now retired, living off my IRA —
my earnings which I invested well, and pay my taxes. NO handouts here and NO corruption here you jerks! What the hell do you do for a living? Other than blather on as a keyboard clown with your socialist rants against your neighbors you don’t know and against The Machine. So stfu about what you don’t know anything about. You’re doing no favors for AOCs camp.

Whether Crowley gets re-elected to Congress or not, or whether he’s re-elected as Queens Dems boss will have NO effect on me.

And please do us a favor and get a paragraph break once in a while.

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MB

Dear Gardens Watcher !!
Your comments about Joe Crowley clearly indicate that you are a Crowley lackey – or someone who has become wealthy due his influence in office. HE NEVER GOT ELECTED TO CONGRESS DUE TO HIS INTELLIGENCE OR SKILLS, HE INHERITED HIS SEAT IN CONGRESS, IN A DIRTY POLITICAL DEAL WITH TOM MANTON, AND STAYED IN CONGRESS for 20 years!! DUE TO HIS QUEENS MACHINE INTIMIDATING OPPONENTS OFF THE BALLOT. He is is not smart, not articulate, nor he is passionate about political issues – he just wants to use his office to get his cronies and family wealthier. He is dumb and greedy. He never deserved his role in Congress , and used his position as boss of Queens to get his family and cronies, namely Sweeney , Bolz, Reich and Martinez rich ! Every single sibling owes their employment to him!! why won’t any of the Queens of politicians, who quietly voted him as Boss of Queens, knowing he lived in Virginia, come out and announce this, ? They all did it secretly, voice-vote, because Joe Crowley intimidated them – he is bumbling, incoherent, ,arrogant fool, and it is time Washington Dems know about how he stayed in office. You raise a great point. Nancy Pelosi should know what a fool she was grooming.
You must be a Crowley minions – who else would support such a dumb pol? only those who were getting rich off his corruption?

p.s. if he is so great, why did he bumble through TWO debates with Ocasio-Cortez, and why was he never able to win his seat in Congress legitimately, without intimidation of opponents by Queens Machine. He needs to get out now! He milked Queens enough. Go back to Virginia Joe, have you no shame??

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Anonymous

The corrupt machine refuses to die. Virginia Joe is a loser. Nolan should be next to go. Get rid of all these bums!

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Gardens Watcher

Hey anonymous, in case you didn’t know, Nolan is running unopposed in November. Doing a good job too for a long time despite your calling her a bum and part of the “corrupt machine.”

I betcha you can’t name one bill or an issue that she has taken a stand on that would earn her that insult.

If you’re so talented, then why don’t you go and get the required signatures to put your “Anonymous” name on the ballot next time. Ah, just jokin huh?

If you’re part of AOCs team, then AOC should post on this site herself and tell us all how she feels about these personal against her fellow Democrats. Before Election Day.

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Bill

He is not removing his name from the working families party ballot. He will beat Cortez in November bc all the republicans will vote for him. The Democratic Party leaders don’t want Cortez.

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kevin n.

cortez is better than a bumbling fool who lives in Virgina? did anyone see the debate, she was so articulate and aware of the issues of voters in queens and bronx and he was a bumbling fool. He lied repeatedly that he lived in Woodside, and everyone knows it is not true. He is a phony. Get out Joe.

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Gardens Watcher

I am not sure that he can remove his name per ballot rules. Not sure if the WFP can remove his name either. But voters can hand write in anybody they want, including Crowley. Be careful who you call a bumbling fool.

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anon

WFP can’t take him off the ballot. As much as it sickens me I’m going to vote for him on the WFP line. AOC is a joke, and the Republican is a nut.

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je

Joe Crowley is a bumbling fool and used his office in Congress and Boss of Queens to enrich his family and cronies – millionaires. He was never legitimately elected to Congress either ? Pls give one example where Crowley ever got elected to Congress legitimately ??????? Can this paper provide that proof.??? Ocasio-Cortez had to fight the unethical Queens Machine of Crowley attorneys Bolz, Sweeny and Reich to get on the ballot – no one else ever could – he was legitimate in Congress. he is a bumbling fool and it should be exposed. I agree with MB that Gardens Watcher must be a Crowley lackey? who else would supports such a fool?

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Gardens Watcher

I’m now rethinking my support for AOC. If this is how her camp operates online, count me out and I’ll vote for Crowley by writing his name in or by the WFP line.

The orchestrated “outrage” that uses the same talking points and actual same words against Crowley smells like an online blitz to not only disparage him politically, but to destroy his name, his family and his public service.

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Anonymous

Now this bothers you? He has lived in Virginia since his first term. He bought his house in Arlington in 2004. I’m still voting for him in November if he remains on the ballot. The republican isn’t even running and Ocasio-Cortez is a joke.

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john m.

Why would anyone vote for a guy who “inherited” his seat in Congress, only stayed in office because the Queens Machine intimidated anyone who tried to challenge him, and who has used his position to enrich his family? Not to mention that Ocasio-Cortez was so articulate in the debates and he was a bumbling fool? Why vote for Crowley?

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Anonymous

Crowley is not a communist, only reason to vote for him. I wish the republicans would put up a real candidate. They’re all crooks you just have to pick the one that will work best for you.

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Carbie Barbie

“Now this bothers you?”

Uh, no. I have been concerned about this since I read that he doesn’t live here some time ago. Kind of the point of my comment.

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Anonymous

Just about all members of Congress maintain homes in D.C., Virginia or Maryland – They work there and don”t commute everyday. Use your brain.

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jmahoney

It is a no brainer to expect the leader of the Queens Democratic Party to actually live in Queens!

Virginia Joe has lied about living. in Woodside as his main residence for years. Other members of Congress raise their families in their Districts – and have places to stay in D.C.
Crowley did the opposite, and lied about for many years. If he was so comfortable with having his main residence in Virgina – why did he lie so much ? even in televised debate with Ocasio-Cortez?

He is a con artist. and wants to be Queens Boss, because his family has used that office to become so rich.

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