March 21, 2019 By Christian Murray
The police released video footage of three men today wanted for a string of robberies and assaults that have taken place in Sunnyside this month.
The first attack took place at around 10:50 p.m. on Saturday, March 9, when the men sprayed ‘silly string’ in the face of a 62-year-old man in front of 40-15 Queens Blvd.(Burger King), before striking him multiple times in the head and back with a belt. The victim was bruised but refused medical attention, police said.
The following Monday, March 11, one of the suspects sucker-punched a 34-year-old man on the corner of Greenpoint and 48th Avenues at around 11:20 p.m. The men then kicked the victim while he was on the ground and took $600, an iPhone X and Apple earpods before fleeing. The victim was taken to Elmhurst Hospital Center where he was treated for bruises to his head and body.
Days later, Saturday, March 16, the trio were seen spray painting parked vehicles on the corner of 39th Avenue and 46th Street at around 2 a.m. When the men were questioned by a 21-year-old observer, they punched the victim in the face causing lacerations and brusies. No serious injuries were sustained.
The group, according to police, then robbed a 45-year-old man at knife point who was walking to work on Monday, March 18, at around 1:20 a.m. by 34-00 Review Ave. The victim was slashed and stabbed by the suspects, while they took his cell phone, wallet and backpack. He was taken to
Elmhurst Hospital and is in serious but stable condition with multiple lacerations to his head and back.
The three suspects are black and in their 20s. One of the men was seen to have long braids, white jacket and blue jeans.
Anyone with information on the case should contact the Crime Stoppers hotline at 1-800-577-8477, or text CRIMES and then enter TIP577, or visit www.nypdcrimestoppers.com.
They could, I don’t know, get jobs and stop leaching on society. Earning your keep in life should be a requirement for using oxygen. And so far, the oxygen these low lives steal each day is wasted.
The 15 year old was clipped because of his jacket being so recognisable. Duh!
anything anyone has heard about the one suspect being arrested?How long is he in there for?
It would help if the Police released the correct descriptions of the suspects. Do they bother looking at the video before they send it out. In today’s New York News the thugs were again described by the police as “three black youths.” No they’re three Hispanics. One being dark skinned and most probably Dominican.
The police have arrested one of the three suspects wanted for a string of violent robberies that have taken place in Sunnyside this month.
Police arrested a 15-year-old youth on Friday afternoon and charged him with three counts of robbery, two counts of assault and one count of a gang assault. The police would not release his name, given his age. However, the teen is a resident of Queens, according to the NYPD.
The suspect was arrested for his alleged involvement in an assault of a 62-year-old man in front of Burger King, at 40-15 Queens Blvd., on Saturday, March 9; the sucker-punching and robbery of a 34-year-old man at Greenpoint and 48th Avenues on March 11; and the robbery of a 45-year-old man at knife point who was walking to work on Monday, March 18, at around 1:20 a.m. by 34-00 Review Ave.
If that’s true, he should be prosecuted as an adult. No juvenile bs. His parents should also be prosecuted, if he knows who is father is.
Free My Boy ?
Does Anybody knows the race of the victims or am I not supposed to ask that.
You’re not supposed to ask or care.
I believe they were human if I’m not mistaken
No, dude, feral animal did this. No one belonging to thehuman race does this.
at the end of the day you don’t know what they been through or why they did what they did. There isn’t an excuse for this typa stuff but maybe you should look at the bigger picture of this is what hopelessness can lead to. institutions like school make them feel like this is the only way to make it in life. Idk what they hime life could be but maybe that group was a sense of community. Just because you do one bad thing doesn’t make you a bad person. These are kids
Awful events but not surprising for this area.
I overheard two let’s say nefarious individuals lately discuss future plans about rich whites in Sunnyside. Be careful out there folks.
If we were rich we’d not live in Queens close to the rest of the city.
That’s bull. Many of us ARE rich. There are million dollar and up houses here. Not that I want to brag about how being white or being jewish sometimes actually does equal being rich, but yes it does. And we often dress and walk just the same as “poor folk”. But thugs don’t care if you are rich or not, they will rob anyone who has a bit of cash in their pocket.
Wait for few years AOC will drop your house price and monthly rent for her suppoters. She already drop rent price, soon house price itself. Million dollar house? With Amazon, it was about to be 4 million, now they talking about more homeless housing. Ya going to sink together.
Where are the police? How can they get away with one act after another after another?
Too busy questioning citizens how we know so and so did whatever they did. True story.
Whoever keeps replying with the B.S intellectually lazy “gee a Trump supporter saying something racist”, please can it. This minority family, (and many others), can call it like we see it. A huge reason places are going to hell is because liberal morons like you, who are desperate to be seen as morally superior, feel that idiot anti Trump comments will earn you “social justice warrior of the year” award. In these small local coffee shops when you’re conversing with your fellow enlightened liberals, I overhear the truth come out. You all like a certain amount of diversity, as in resturants, and multicultural experiences you pay for, however, you don’t truly want that same diversity at your doorstep. Stop jumping on people as racist when they state that these kids are obviously Hispanic and part of a gang. Other Hispanics like our family can call it for what it is, rather than coddle, and encourage “hug a thug” handling of such crimes.
Please give me locations where I can find these people.Will be doing recon on BK tonight.
Agreed, there are a LOT of racist Trump supporters commenting on this thread, so let’s blame libruls
No, let’s blame these thugs, their neglectful parents who probably were kids themselves when they birthed them, and not blame people for stating the obvious. And yes, in cities where liberal policies are run amok, there are homeless explosions, drugs are rampant, and tax dollar go to the wrong places. But let’s elect more AOC types who run jobs out of the area. Then we can have more kids like these, (who could possibly be reformed), unable to support themselves and end up comfy between our tax dollars and robbery. We have bigger problems than racism. Coddling, low expectations and liberal policies are destroying minorities faster than any “racist Trump supporter”
The videos were featured on all the late night news programs last night. Wisdom of the crowd is real, guys. Bet you’re caught before the weekend is over.
Usual suspects, every time. Please stop reinforcing stereotypes.
Why is always these same type of people committing crimes? Look at any crime committed in the city and it is always from the same types of people. Why is that? This is how it has been for years. Decades. Goes on from generation to generation. The city has a substantial under class population that keeps perpetuating itself. Maybe because the city subsidizes it through welfare and housing projects. And a doofus mayor.
@never changes you could say the same thing about white supremacist shooters… always the same people.
That’s true, but you can’t equate this. As much as you would like. Because equating them is just trying to deflect and excuse what these thugs did. White supremacists are terrorists, while these punks are just run of the mill housing project, welfare recipient minority thugs. They are a dime a dozen.
Put white supremacists and minority thugs in the same room and keep them there. The rest of us could then live in peace.
Look at the guy who kicked the old woman on the subway. Look at the guy arrested in Sunnyside. Check out their ethnic group. You can’t deny the facts. Most blacks and Hispanics are not criminals but most street criminals are black or hispanic and that is the truth whether you and liberals want to deny it.
Stop denying the truth!
There is a huge problem of crime and violence in black and Hispanic communities. Ask the people who live there. They will tell you and they won’t be politically correct.
They are not stereotypes if the people involved actually DO what stereotypes they say they resent. How are they making themselves upstanding citizens? How can anyone take them seriously?
They are frustrated they couldn’t get into Stuyvesant or Bronx Science
DiCrazio will get them in for diversity
Saw them on 54th St. and 39th ave by the doughboy park (my block). They were up to no good and questioning anyone who dared to look more than a few seconds at them, including my 80 something year old 4’8″ widow neighbor watering her garden. Harassed me in front of my son when I drove by and then as I got out.. asking me to come over.. with my son (11) disturbed… they looked so young, I told him they were just boys being boys… but I knew it was more than that… cant call the cops on being out of place acting weird though, right?
Please get them away from out neighborhood!
They weren’t boys being boys. Boys don’t attack and rob other people or harass elderly people. Call them what they are – thugs. They are uncivilized mutts. They’ll be in and out of prisons the rest of their pathetic lives.
Well Mutts, I do know that.. was just trying to spare my loved and cared for 11 yo son with that description.
So just mind your business and don’t engage. That’s how to raise a man.
Dear Boss, you sound like a winner to begin with. And
Yeah when he’s 11 years old coming home from school and scared.. yeah sorry if my woman mom self didnt engage a pack of wolves. Sounds like something I should have definitely done… gone over there with my mom self and shown my son how it’s done. Sounds really smart.. thanks for the advice!
And then you call the police, right?
Why are the girls faces blocked out?
Good question, Unknown. The girls seem to be friendly with these guys. Call them what you want, but the headline calling them “men” is giving them waaay too much deference.
hey jimmy Van B…get to doing something about this!!! Amazing how quick you did something when someone broke into your house. GUESS WHAT…Sunnyside is your house and we all are your family so call for action and pretend you care!!!
Jimmy’s Response : https://twitter.com/JimmyVanBramer/status/1109105164609310720
JVB is useless!
JVB would be more outraged and act swiftly if someone were to toss a paper bag into his precious bike lanes. PATHETIC
Just find them and arrest them so I can feel safe living in my neighborhood. I will say it again, why is there never a police presence in Sunnyside at anytime or hour!
3 word solution!
STOP AND FRISK!
They are not stereotypes if they are true.
Yes, why respect our constitutional rights to reasonable search and seizure! If I cared about black people’s rights I wouldn’t have voted Trump.
Deblasio is slowing taking us back to the grimy 80’s.
Welcome to Deblasio City!!!!
Soft on crime policies that allow criminals to walk around freely with illegal weapons knowing they won’t be stopped and searched.
Where is Jimmy Van Bramer???? Not a peep from that little weasel politician.
These boys needs reparations and they won’t need to do this anymore!!
ASK GABRIEL THOSE ARE HIS FRIENDS. HE WAS WANTED BY ASSAULTING A DRIVER IN 43RD AND QB MONTHS AGO with the blue doorag.. THEY CHILL AT BURGER KING AND PS 150..
The kid in the blue jacket with the black curls is Adrian and the other tall guy with the mustache is Hector, they are in a gang called 52K. We moved from Sunnyside a few months ago and my kids recognized them,
I hope you reported this to the cops.
These lowlives need to get caught. They need not to be on the streets. They’re completely useless.
I see graffiti with ’52’ on it in Sunnyside.
Call NYPD, thanks.
Get the reward if there is one,you are welcome.
Why is it always Black and Hispanic people committing crime. I don’t see Asians committing crime. They come here just as poor. But we can never talk about it. This will never be printed.
Okay china man!
White people also commit crimes. Those crimes are also, almost never printed.
Cause blacks and Hispanics don’t have parental upbringing like at all.
What makes you think it’s about $$$ of lack thereof? It’s about upbringing and having two parents with good work and home ethics.
Sounds like a Greek/Roman tragedy.
If you have information on this matter why not contact the nypd and report it. Pointing fingers,making accusations and assuming where they’re from on a internet website won’t do any body good. You just sound stupid.
There were pictures of them! Stop trying to deny the truth and deal with the problems. Crime is a problem in the black and Hispanic communities. Most black and Hispanic people are not criminals but most street crime is committed by black and Hispanic people and that is a fact, pal.
Pal, first of all your too comftable describing people as black. Do you ever say black people in public, Describing any “black person” in any type of situation, I bet you don’t, That’s disrespectful. Second if you read my comment I said if anyone has information why not report it to the nypd, you don’t know where these kids are from why assume they’re Hispanics without really knowing publicly. These kids should Be held accountable for what they did, putting out there names where they live hang out etc it’s not responsible.
One of them is black and the other two look Hispanic and they go to Burger King often so you should keep an eye on Burger King
Moma said nothing good happens after midnight.
It’s the gang NLMB
Fulfill the prophecy
They are Dominicanooooo! Dominicanooo! Trinitarios, look at their beads red, white and blue – for the Dominican flag. Look for them at the JHS or Queens Vocational you can find them in the vicinity between 47th and 48th Avenues from 39th Street – start in the building above the corner bodega.
They’re definitely NOT from that building that you say. That’s a fact. I do hope they catch them though. Looking forward to it.
Its been almost confirmed that they attend IS 125 right here in Woodside. The school is working with the PD directly to find them/provide names.
No ones to old and
The other look to old
Go to the park ps150Q you can see one this teen and so many teens smoke marihuana in the from our kids
By now someone knows who they are, even their family members! Turn them in! Harsh punishments….no probation is the only way they will learn! Community service is a joke.
NYC really needs to bring back Stop and Frisk. Since we don’t have this policy any longer this type of crime is rampant. Forget political correctness and let the cops do their job. I am starting to get afraid to even go out of the house at this point. How can they say crime is down. Watch the news.
Stop and frisk has nothing to do with this. If anything stop and frisk is tyrannical for people who safely own roscoe’s. These punk kids would pass over Sunnyside if these old people had a side arm.
When seconds count but the police are minutes away!
Having Rosco P Coltrane and beloved Flash would be more of a morale boost then anything else at this point in time to be honest.
Crime is NOT rampant in this neighborhood (not that it ever was, as I recall.) Stop & frisk had nothing to do with it then and really isn’t needed right now. Any claim that stop-and-frisk contributed to a decline in the crime rate is unsubstantiated. (PS What news are you watching?)
You must not have lived in Sunnyside in the ‘90’s or were blissfully ignorant. 40th st off of Queens Blvd., was an entire street of people selling any drug you wanted; the entire block with rooftop watchdogs. When Guliani came in ‘96 with stop and frisk leading the way, that block was forever cleared in a matter months. So to say it didn’t work tells me you either didn’t live in the city back then or just avoided reality entirely.
Actually, I moved here in ’96. I lived on 55th street in Woodside before moving here. NYC & Queens were very different then; it was over 20 years ago. Stop & frisk was a radical & extreme response to and there’s nothing more than an opinion that it was a solution- the actual data does not support what you’re saying. Correlation does not imply causation, like it or not. Btw, try and find any evidence that stop & frisk event existed in 1996 and you’ll find nothing.
sorry to tell you this but crime is rampant in this neighborhood very much along with woodside too – and that is a FACT.
Not according to the local police department or to any statistical data. You might be afraid of the bogeyman but I believe in what’s obvious and what the local authorities say: crime is down significantly, it’s not rampant, and stop & frisk didn’t matter and wasn’t/isn’t needed. If you can provide evidence to the contrary, please do so. Otherwise, go back to hiding under your bed.
Statistics and idiots are easily manipulated.
stop and frisk is a violation of the constitutional rights. When stop and frisk was around cops use to go around searching people without a suspicion of a crime. Therefore deemed unconstitutional, educate yourself.
let me give you a bit of clarity on your statement: 1. crime in this neighborhood as well as this city is not “rampant”. Yes, there is crime and always will be crime, but claiming that crime is rampant is either a mistake or a lie on your part. 2. It is factually proven by the use of statistics provided by not only the NYPD , but also independent monitors and watchdog groups, that this type of crime is actually on a major decline over the past 10 years (years during which stop and frisk was in effect). This means that your claim of rampancy is not only simply untrue, but actually the complete opposite of the truth.
3. If you are so fearful of crime that you dont want to leave your own house everyday in one of the statistically safest big cities on this planet, that is more of a reflection on your own mental state and personality than it is a reflection on the current street crime rates of NYC. 4. watching “the news” as a way to gauge crime rates is simply a fool’s narrative. There are roughly 10 million people in this city. If you turn on the news tonight and see 3 stories about 3 specific crimes, that would actually be a very positive thing considering how many people live here and how closely they live to each other. 5. I am going to assume that you are not from New York city based on the fact that you believe crime is rampant here today. If you were actually from New York and had experienced this city in the 70’s and 80’s and even early 90’s, you would have a much clearer perception of what it is that you are speaking about. 6. you might want to think a bit next time before you post a comment that is so “rampantly” plagued by lies and opinion and instead rely more on the facts.
Did not just mean Sunnyside. I meant the entire City. Watch CBS NBC or ABC local news…..and don’t forget FOX cable
Crime is rampant, end of story . Peace out Cub Scout
Not according to any empirical data. Maybe you’re relying upon gossip?
Sorry to disappoint you but I have lived in NYC my entire life. I think I know when crime is rampant or not. You must not ride the subway or watch TV. Stop and Frisk = if you are not doing anything wrong then no need to worry. If the police had the authority they would be able to find all the knives, guns, machetes, drugs etc that the troublemakers carry.
Stay home lock yourself in the panic room and never come out…when did New Yorkers become scared of their own shadows?? Also, you sound really, really fucking stupid…how do you function in life??
“In 2002, there were 97,296 “stop and frisk” stops made by New York police officers; 82.4% resulted in no fines or convictions. The number of stops increased dramatically in 2008 to over half a million, 88% of which did not result in any fine or conviction, peaking in 2011 to 685,724 stops, again with 88% resulting in no conviction. On average, from 2002 to 2013, the number of individuals stopped without any convictions was 87.6%.”
Would expect the Mayor’s office to drag out these statistics, but not to use the F word.
Jarvis aka Bill DeBlasio you have all the proof u read in these posts why to city crime rate is going up. Just a matter of time before one of the ignorant posters on here is a victim and change their tune.
Yeah violating everyone’s rights oops I mean minorities but by the judge your name pretty sure you’re not. I grew up during the stop and frisk era and I tell you what I hate cops because of it I have no jail record never been in trouble with the law but they always manage to frisk me and run my name and threaten to put me in jail if I didn’t comply while I was in front of my house. Just so you can feel safe.
That’s been done to me many times including shuting down a section of Roosie ave.mostly done by minority cops ,I don’t cry victim.
I will forward this to the local politician to demand more police reinforcement.
Good luck getting any results, but please do. Also report to 311 EVERY issue you see in the neighborhood and please do not report them anonymously. I report all the time and they actually call me if they can’t locate or if they want more proof etc. However other times either they are too busy or they just send a rookie/lazy officer, who just says “nothing observed”..Of course nothing observed because you arrived 2 hours later. If I call 911, maybe they’ll show up faster, but I don’t want to bother 911 with some of these issues.
Don’t just call police. Try to report online as you can track the conversation with the tip line. This way, there is more transparency of where your tip goes.
where’s the outpouring of support from JVB? not a word! These issues need to be at the forefront!
Middle one looks like DeBlasios son, bottom one looks like he could be President Obama’s son if he had a boy. But, we’re a democratic city that ignores reality when it comes to crime. These guys have been empowered by the weakening of our law enforcement by our beloved mayor who is spending hundreds(?) of thousands of dollars to fly to middle America to talk with 3 people who mistook him for a hot dog salesman.
This is definitely the most insane, no point, rambling comment of the week
How much is AOC paying you to surf the web? The point is DeBlasio is everywhere but NYC while our neighborhood goes down the toilet. The point is these aren’t residents doing this to us, they come ftom outside and are not afraid of doing these acts because they are not afraid of being caught or of repercussions. Even in the 90’s you could walk around here , but now, good luck. That’s the point.
It’s true, you’re not making any sense. I walk around here all the time and haven’t encountered any danger. You are the scariest thing I’ve run into since moving here over 20 years ago!
Man up! What a baby you are being afraid to walk around the neighborhood. WEAK. It’s not bad @ all. Look up crime stats and compare them to yesteryear. Keep hiding under your bed from the bogeyman.
How sad you are that you have three different “personalities “ all trying to insult me because I’m not in denial about the situation our neighborhood. You can can have all the numbers and stats you want ( remember Hillary at 60+% the day before the election) but the reality is crime is up, cops are being discouraged to take reports because their bosses want to keep their jobs because delusional DeBlasio wants to tout crime stats to the 4 people in Iowa who thought they were getting free breakfast for hearing him speak. Just look at that video of the elderly woman being blasted with kicks while everyone “ oohs” and “ aahs” while filming and doing nothing to help. Things are not good here in NYC
They look like HS kids
They probably never went to high school or dropped out. Illiterate. The future of the city. This is what happens when you have generation after generation living on welfare. Probably never worked in their lives. What kind of job could they do anyway? These thugs were doomed before they were born.
Thats we we need Mandatory English programs …..NO HS diploma if you can’t read the NYTimes out loud and talk about current events…….#2 anyone applying for welfare food stamps medicaid must sit in class 15 hours a week and learn English and Math to keep your EBT card…. that alone will thin out the ranks real fast.
#3 NO early release/ slap on the wrist probation or community service….. instead again as above, make it a mandatory part to learn how to read, write and speak English and prove it to a parole board/ Judge before being released.
Let the prisoner/convict have a choice speak Ebonics and serve every last day, or speak fluent English and get released early.
Wow, a racist Trump supporter??! Now I’ve seen everything!
Go back to England! This is America!
I believe the first two are highschool kids I’ve seen them around and judging by the way they sound. It’s safe to say the second one hasn’t even hit puberty. The last one seems like the leader of their little crew based on when what I observed when he spoke the whole crew listened. The fact that your 20+ years old hanging out with little kids means you got nothing going for you life. Lock these clowns up.
Jimmy, it’s time to speak up. What are you doing to address crime, now almost in your backyard.
JVB where are you???- you are due for a photo op
* no question- crime is on the rise
We’re heading back to the 70s fast
Thanks BR. It is Jimmy’s issue, and it’s a fair question.
These dimwits should be watching the 11 o’clock news. Maybe then they would realize that there are cameras all over the place catching dimwits such as them.
You think these people watch the news, like ever??? Please! They don’t come from backgrounds that value current events and world issues. That’s just not what they DO. It’s all telemundo, BET and hoochie mama shows.
You think they are home at 11:00pm? Heck, their guardian/s don’t even know and/or care they are not at home!!!
Silly string as a weapon? That’s pretty creative.
Really smart comment
I hope they catch these bastards. Animals don’t act like this; only humans. Deplorable.
The Hispanic kid is the same kid who punched a kid out on the subway platform I think a year ago. Look back on the police files. I think this kid went to a high school in the neighborhood.
They hang outside Burger king all the time. when finished with their soda cups they throw it on the ground right in front of the butcher block. I corrected them last month and naturally was verbally attacked & to mind my own business. But i suppose under Deblasio’s ideology they would just be expressing their frustration and are allowed to vent.
I saw them get onto the 7th at 40th street. Saw the one kid do the same thing. They live in the area.
Find their parents and make hold them responsible.
“Find their parents “ ??????
Find them only to arrest them for failure to supervise.
Find the mom, anyway, let’s be real
Wow, more racist comments from Trump supporters!
what’s racist in any of the comments? is it not you that’s racist for interpreting the comments in such a way?
“what’s racist in any of the comments?”
Lol Trump supporters are actually THIS gullible
Their Hispanic from Corona with nothing to do. Bums!!
Wow, racist Trump suppoter comment!!!
I’m sure there’s people happy to joining the hunt.
Suckyside is over priced and full of crime and drugs. Dealers all over. Derelicts like these dirtbags do this at will and all the politicians around here worry about is bikelanes and keeping them clean. Whoever complains about the prices of their one bedroom co op ,and amount of street crime they have to deal with and and they dont move from suckyside , well they belong here. Suckers! All sucker! Sell your overpriced closets you call apartments and move out of this wasteland. Queens blvd is full of Drunk people, people on drugs and theives . Great job by cops but unfortunately there isnt enough of a presence, not enough cops , they cant be everywhere. Move out and go enjoy life. Or stay here and live with the swine..
Ha, and we just did. Couldn’t be moving at a better time. Overpriced, overcrowded, and overhyped. Now that crime is back on the rise thanks to Liberal policies, this here minority family is done waiting for people to wake up and start voting differently. Prioritizing absolute nonsense compared to what needs to be prioritized is sending what was for the most part, a nice place to live, into the can, (along with the rest of the cities that have crumbled with homeless, drug, and crime explosions.) You reap what you see, unfortunately liberal ideology rules here, above common sense and in your face facts. Best of luck to our friends riding it out.
Do YOU live there?
Just moved. Husband has been here his entire life and family is still here. Couldn’t pay us enough to continue to deal with parking, rats, dog s**t, congestion, and the noticable overall decay. People that didn’t see this place decades ago, don’t appreciate how cleaned up it was. Guess for many ideology trumps what you see with your own eyes.
where is Mr. JVB on all of this – he is very quiet lately – I guess it does not fit his agenda –
It is okay. He is Jimmy Can BlameHim for a reason.
“The three suspects are black”… Looks to me like one is and the other two are mixed or hispanic. Might want to have another look at the video, Sunnyside Post.
Put it this way: they’re not white. That’s what “black” means in this day and age.
Those kids are up to no good my son use to be with them but now he stays home an plays the game all day hopefully no one else gets hurt
But they’re good boys. Never caused anyone any problems.
punk teens with nothing to do…
More than just punks. They are thugs. I can only imagine what their family lives are like. They weren’t conceived by two parents, but bred, like animals, which is what they really are. Uncivilized, without a future.
Your statement is an insult to the science of animal husbandry.
Ya dumbbbb it’s the gang NLMB and they stay around woodside.
White people use the word “thug” b/c they don’t wanna be outed as racist…
Do you have a better word than “thugs” to describe these packs of lowlife scumbags?