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LIC: Ribbon Cut On Borough’s First Planned Parenthood Center

 

May 18, 2015 By Jackie Strawbridge

Supporters of Planned Parenthood turned out in Long Island City this morning to cut the ribbon on what will be the organization’s first center in Queens.

A lively crowd of more than 50 people convened at the 21-41 45th Road facility, which is expected to open mid June. There was no sign of protestors.

The opening of the Queens facility represents a milestone for Planned Parenthood since it will now have centers in all five boroughs. The organization estimates that 5,400 of its current patients are Queens residents who are commuting to other boroughs to use its services.

The new facility will offer reproductive health services including abortions, gynecological care, cancer screenings, birth control and health insurance screening and enrollment.

Joan Malin, PPNYC President and CEO, called the new center is “truly transformational for us.”

“We very much see ourselves as [a] partner in meeting the needs of this extraordinarily wonderful place, home to so many languages and new communities,” Malin said. “We want to be part of that experience.”

The facility, which is 14,000 square feet, has been named the Diane L. Max Health Center, after the PPNYC Board Chair, a champion of its construction. Max said she felt it was “essential” to bring services to the diverse and rapidly growing Queens community.

Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer, who allocated $750,000 of city funds toward the new center, said, “the borough of Queens is better and safer today because Planned Parenthood is here.”

“This is one of the most beautiful buildings in my district,” he added. “It is so full of light, and air, and color, and it’s really all about hope.”

PPNYC expects that the new center will serve about 17,500 patients per year.

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PETER P

Hey mac…did you stop by the library after feeding the pigeons? or again on wikipedia……repeating what you read…

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Mac

@Givmelibery “Give us a break” you self righteous phony. Facts prove practicing reproductive health and responsibility does not promote promiscuity. Below is list published by Economist magazine relating to “promiscuity: It looks ;like a pretty mixed bag to most. If your flat out lie was true why are the nations which practice the most reproductive health and responsibility missing from the list ie: France, Sweden, Norway, Canada and Italy just to name a few. and so called religious countries over represented ie: Israel, Bolivia, Philippines and Brazil Please stop posting lies and propaganda at least pretend to have some faith in your false ideology you phony hypocrite.

1. Finland 50.5
2. New Zealand 47.69
3. Slovenia 46.26
4. Lithuania 46.1
5. Austria 45.73
6. Latvia 43.93
7. Croatia 42.98
8. Israel 40.95
9. Bolivia 40.9
10. Argentina 40.74
11. United Kingdom 40.17
12. Estonia 39.95
13. Germany 39.68
14. Netherlands 39.34
15. Morocco 39.31
16. Philippines 39.31
17. Switzerland 39.13
18. Fiji 38.58
19. Brazil 37.93
20. Czech Rep. 37.52

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kay w

very interesting that once again the debate around abortion is being hashed out by men. plannned parenthood helps to educate people — both men and women (and teen boys and girls) — and provides reproductive health services for those seeking it. they do amazing work and provide a LEGAL, SAFE services to those who need it.

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Givemeliberty

Give me a break! PP promotes promiscuity and abortion is not safe for babies – and women have died during LEGAL abortions – without the abortionists being prosecuted since Planned Parenthood covers up for its crimes.s I happen to a be a woman, by the way. And you seem to think that men do not have the right to an opinion. It takes two to tango, Kay baby.

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Moishe

Dorothy its me that may owe an apology….This “Mac” is not well and my engaging him seems to bring out the worst in him. Sad…..

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MOISHE

BTW….Mac….JVB is a married man……if someone took such an unhealthy interest in my spouse….I too would be offended

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MOISHE

Whoa Mac…..why again resort to name calling? This Peter and his ilk may not be the nicest of people but you seem to have a “homosexual” obsession. Scary but I think that Peter P may have a point when you state that you have been around JVB about 100 times a year? Why is “Give me Liberty” a hypocrite? Do you realize that if abortion had been as acceptable 50 years ago as it is today….and the gene for homosexuality discovered…you and JVB might have been aborted because some Quack would have told your mothers that you both would be born mentally ill.
You need to think for yourself….slow down …stop calling people names

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Mac

@Givemeliberty Nobody said you had to use the facility. Thank God for the morning after pill so pretty soon we may be hearing less you and your party of greed. Aborted by your very own policies. What are you crying about anway? Less children for you and the Republicans to starve, incarcerate and cut education funding to. You sound like a phony hypocrite. Bleeding heart phony.

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Givemeliberty

Mac, the demo party of the party of death that wants to keep minorities on its thoughtless plantation. And I give lots of money to charity – most pro lifers do! It’s greedy people like you who don’t donate!

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Mac

@Givemeliberty You don’t even know me or what or who I give to. I do “know” hypocrisy when I hear it or in this case see it posted on a blog. Are you looking for a pat on the back for giving to a charity? I just guess that’s another area we just don’t see eye to eye on. I give without saying anything you bring it up when facts in a debate aren’t going your way. A person who is comfortable enough to make such a ridiculous and unsubstantiated claim like you just did isn’t worth trying to facts with. I’m so greedy. hahahahaha You’re a jerk.

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Givemeliberty

This is a sad day for Queens. And shame on Jimmy Van Bramer and his political party – truly the party of death.

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Mac

@Peter P I was there when Kennedy used it in his speeches. You’ve yet to show me anything except you’re a pedophile idiot.

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PETER P

Remember vote this JVB out of office…….

Hey Mac….are you familiar with this quote

“All thats necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”

Just curious “are you the author”?

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PETER P

hey mac…i think your better off praying to your life size photo of JVB…last time i checked the bible…God does’nt participate in abortions. It’s always interesting how you seem so quick to pray while doing everything you can to discredit religion….who would you be praying to? You must be in need of counseling……stop by Church as you make the rounds feeding stray cats and pigeons….

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Mac

@Peter P You ignorant fool with the handle of a pedophile. Life size photo of JVB just shows your ignorance you pedophile. “God doesn’t participate in abortion in the bible…” There are references to abortion in the bible in Exodus 21:22‑23, throughout Numbers and Leviticus just to name a few books. If you want to post to me come up with a fact or two you creepy idiot. You constantly show how ignorant you are in your postings on this forum.

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Richard O' Connor

Van Bramer says ” The borough of Queens is better and safer because Planned Parenthood is here ” . No Jimmy if you gave $750,000 to our Police department the borough of Queens would be better and safer. Aside from cancer screenings – gynecological care and health insurance Planned Parenthood does nothing to help one become a parent.

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Givemeliberty

Jimmy is just a thoughtless puppet of Big Abortion – as is Cathy Nolan – the mother of an adopted child.

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Givemeliberty

It is disgusting that our TAX DOLLARS are being used to fund a depraved organization, the largest provider of abortions in the United States. This is a group that disdains crisis pregnancy center and believes that it is all right for a woman who is in the third trimester of a pregnancy to have an abortion. It also has no problem with underaged girls having abortions without the knowledge of the parents. The bread and butter of PP is abortion. It is not about “women’s health”. That is a fig leaf to cover up the misdeeds that go on inside its so-called “clinics”.

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Sharon Beth Long

Planned Parenthood is on a “collision course with itself” Although less than 10% of their visits by patients nationwide may be abortions, abortions bring in more than 30% of their clinical income. Since they are required to accept all insurance, medicaid, and take people for free for birth control on which they lose money they look to abortion to close the funding gap. See the book Unplanned by Abby Johnson, a former Planned Parenthood clinic director. This is largely why they are requiring all their chapters to provide abortions. I the early nineties, according to the New York Times, Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger clinic in Greenwich Village did not even provide birth control; it was not “renumerative”
Although perhaps the local volunteer or even local Planned Parenthood worker believes that their birth control program in preventing abortion my own research in graduate school showed that between 1975-1982 although the government money after inflation was taken into account spent on family planning programs in New York State, much of it going to Planned Parenthood, more than doubled abortion continued to increase as a proportion of the fertile women in the state. Planned Parenthood is also one of the major political advocates of abortion nationwide
Under our new mayor, although he talks a good line about helping low income people has done nothing to raise welfare payments and people who work in the housing industry tell me that his plan to help developers build low income units will be ineffective in most cases.
Women have abortions not because they have a choice but because they do not have a choice. It’s a tragedy that all we can offer to women having unplanned pregnancies is abortion. Women deserve better.

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Seth

@Moishe. ..what an incredible collection of depraved people on this forum. …To think that these are our neighbors leaves me with a sick feeling in my stomach. ..Again shame on you JVB

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SouthSideJohnny

Seth, you could always move away and live someplace where all your neighbors think like you do. Maybe down south, or Kansas, Texas, or some other place where a womb is regulated by the government. around here, we believe in individual liberty and the Constitution that a right to privacy under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman’s decision to have an abortion.) Please consider moving far away.

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rikki

why do you care…..unless you have tons of excess cash and are willing to pay a lot more in taxes…….it has been proven time and time again, for every Einstein you will get 100- 1000 welfare babies being born……..and that costs a ton of money to service those people.

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Mac

@Seth The only depravity displayed on this forum is a depraved indifference for truth, facts and history by you Seth,GML,Luvu2 and the rest of the Fox legion. Thank you Fox News for creating an army of brain dead puppets and fanatics and unleashing this band of idiots on the public.

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PETER P

What kind of phoney are you? Why not use your real name? Your the rodent advocate. Do you really believe that anyone on this site believes you eat in a rodent infested restaurant? ok well maybe that fellow “mac” he is of simple mind. Grow up

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MOISHE

I wrote that I “think” objectively and post my ” opinion”………….you would have been perfect fodder for the Nazis…..you parrot and believe everything you read…..you have’nt displayed one iota of original or independent thought in any of your raves. You think by disparaging rather than debating ….you can somehow impose your biases…….
Think before you write…just because you read something or can access wikipedia does’nt make you an intellect. Real intelligence …thinks for itself….asserts its own ideas backed by logic.

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MOISHE

My goodness even the mighty “Mac” the intellectual can make a grammatical mistake.

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MOISHE

Mac…..
post1
pōst/Submit
noun
1.
a long, sturdy piece of timber or metal set upright in the ground and used to support something or as a marker.
“follow the blue posts until the track meets a forestry road”
synonyms: pole, stake, upright, longer, shaft, prop, support, picket, strut, pillar, pale, paling, stanchion; historicalpuncheon
“wooden posts”
a goalpost.
“Robertson, at the near post, headed wide”
a starting post or winning post.
noun: the post
2.
an online posting.
verb
verb: post; 3rd person present: posts; past tense: posted; past participle: posted; gerund or present participle: posting
1.
display (a notice) in a public place.
“a curt notice had been posted on the door”
synonyms: affix, attach, fasten, display, pin (up), put up, stick (up), tack (up)
“the notice posted on the wall”

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Luvu2

We have to pray for planned parenthood supporters since the founder of the organization Margaret Sanger was a racist and eugenicist who once addressed a kkk rally . Yup she is the idol of libs!

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Mac

@luvu2 You’re absolutely right we should pray for Margaret Sanger and the millions of women’s lives that were saved and the millions of children who were not orphaned because of her bravery and sacrifice. Yes you’re absolutely right and people should read up on how many women died, families destroyed and children orphaned because of the prohibition on abortion. Don’t forget the millions of throw away children in Boston, New York, Baltimore and Philadelphia during Margaret Sangers time. People who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.

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PETER P

Hey Mac BTW—- he’s a “married” man. why are you following him around about a “100 times a year” At least that moron Moishe is honest. What right do you have to assume JVB is at the Bliss for any reason? He could have been there to escape from his wife as most married men will do…he could have a crush on the asian kid?….he might like the wings? maybe he likes the music? maybe stops there before heading to Chelsea? who knows?

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PETER P

Hey Mac if your still not living at home with your mother? Maybe you should get a life size photo of JVB. Hang it in your cramped studio apartment next to your book case. then when ever your over come with the urge, you can Kneel in front of it and worship….wink….wink

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Mac

@Peter P said just the way I would expect someone with a pedophiles handle to post. Peter Pan you never responded to my post calling you an ignorant persecutor.

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MOISHE

So anyone that disagrees with you is “sick” homosexual” needs help. I do read but unlike you …I don’t parrot what I read or look for lines or context to prove my point. I think objectively.

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Mac

@Moishe You’re far from someone who thinks or “posts” objectively. You keep bring up the Medical establishments classification and labeling of Homosexuality, you obviously missed a huge chunk of my post to Peter P, I’ll past it here and hold your obsessive hand but again. ” After the preaching of Thomas Aquinas in early 1300’s religious teachings soon were incorporated into legal sanctions. Many of the early American colonies, for example, enacted stiff criminal penalties for sodomy, an umbrella term that encompassed a wide variety of sexual acts that were nonprocreative (including homosexual behavior), occurred outside of marriage (e.g., sex between a man and woman who were not married), or violated traditions (e.g., sex between husband and wife with the woman on top). The statutes often described such conduct only in Latin or with oblique phrases such as “wickedness not to be named”). In some places, such as the New Haven colony, male and female homosexual acts were punishable by death (e.g., Katz, 1976). This is how the Homosexuality classification came about in medical books and one of the very reason for its removal from medical books. Go out and do a little research on the topic you’re horribly ignorant on this topic.You also appear to self loathing.

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MOISHE

And to your point “fact” vs. ‘theory” It is a fact that homosexuality was labeled as disorder by the medical establishment. The label is a “fact”. Wether it is “pathological” is an opinion or theory…..idiot

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MOISHE

maybe…I never really thought about it….( being a gay)..and if I was “gay” why would I need “help’. I thought your “OPINION” was that homosexual behavior or inclination is normal? Why would you be looking for signs in other men? wonder what Freud would have to say about you? The councilman is openly gay and lets people know everytime he gets the opportunity….yes thats flaunting. Inviting men to your house for cookies? Ok I’m fine with that…he’s not sleeping in my bed or using my stove to engage in his activity ……….what I do care about are the people that have no voice…no one to defend them.

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Mac

@Moiche you can’t possible be this stupid and in need of this much remedial reading. The help you need is to cope with accepting of something you are denying within yourself causing you to obsess. These things obsession, guilt, fear and denial get worse over time and manifest other ways and aspects of peoples lives.This is where you need the help. If you’re looking for guidance help or sympathy, you’ve come to the wrong guy. Speak to a psychologist or healthcare professional for direction. Just holding your hand through the simplist of postings has been to irritating for me and lack of patience. I’ve pointed you now go.

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Mac

@Moishe You’re obviously a repressed Gay man. Get some help or come to terms. First you bring up your sexual preference, and now this post about JVB not being into me. Its on your mind way too much.

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MOISHE

Mac…. let me also remind you you that anyone….anyone can find “facts” to string together a theory or conclusion.. Its how you interpret the “facts” and connect them…sometimes( not you of course! ) but lesser intellects reach the wrong conclusion from two unrelated “facts”. Many Pyschologists also believe that Freud was a misguided….that was his “opinion” his take on research that may or may not have been biased to prove his point of view. Read it and make what you will of his work and the other so called experts and academics……I suggest you try and prove yourself wrong…….yes look for “facts” that don’t align with your conclusions or beliefs. You might be surprised who the “ignorant” one is …without resorting to a mirror

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MOISHE

Mac..as far as I’m concerned homosexuality is not my preference but one has the right to be with whom he chooses. What I disagree with….is forcing a point of view on others that have the same right to think and feel accordingly….using words like “ignorant” to describe devout or pro life folks invoking their right to free speech is “ignorant”. Sorry also if we’re are not the typists or great spellers, historians that you assert you to be.
Idiot

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Mac

@Moishe Ignorant means uninformed and unaware as defined by dictionary dot com. This is something you constantly display in your posts, idiot I didn’t your sexual preference nor do I care. Please define your definition of forcing a point of view on others. Provide an example as well. I will use the words in the English language in accordance to the rules of the English language. When someone is uniformed and unaware they are ignorant. Go look it up idiot. You don’t need to be a historian or great speller but you do need to be informed if you’re not informed or won’t allow yourself to be informed that makes you ignorant by definition of the word. Its not how I feel or what I believe but what the definition of the word is plain an simple. If a devout, pro life, atheist, or anyone else spews uninformed drivel and ignore facts they will be called ignorant for that reason alone not because they exercised their right to free speech. You’re ridiculous.

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Mac

@Moishe That definition of proclivity is from Webster’s or Dictionary dot com or one them. I pulled the definition in response to this quote by Peter P “This is a guy who openly flaunts his sexual proclivities, champion of the little guy ” the underdog”, protector of human rights, lover of perversion and decandence (sic)” I think he meant “decadence” I have met and seen JVB easily over hundred times over the years at Bliss Restaurant, Tropical Isle, his office on Queens Blvd. Charitable Benefits, City Hall etc. I pulled the definition because it is way out of context. Unless PeterP has actually had sex with the guy or spoke someone who has he could not know his “proclivities”. Gay (homosexual) is adjective not the noun. Proclivity (noun) is defined in previous post. I also want to know what he means by “openly flaunts”. I have never seen the man openly flaunt anything. Does “openly flaunt” mean living “openly gay” to Peter P? Peter P then went on to point to the old mental illness designation to further persecute his target. He obviously didn’t know how this designation came about. The “diagnosis of ignorant” for Peter P is dead on. I rest my case and would like to throw in the word persecutor to diagnosis.

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MOISHE

Wow Mac….how educated you are! Did you pull up that history lesson on Wikipedia …..I think the definition of proclivity was dead on….especially with regard to the context of which it was used by that racist Peter. Does’nt mean I agree with him. You see having a different opinion does not make one ignorant so long as there is a logic behind it. Yes homosexuality was considered deviant….thats a fact. So what about 600 years ago….Again I don’t agree with that point of view but others much more educated than I advocate that diagnosis.
Personally I find both you and Peter P distasteful individuals.

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Killa Bee

Wow all the bible thumping retards came out of their judgemental rocks. Go back to exploiting the poor so the pastor can have nice cars and fancy houses and not pay taxes.

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Givemeliberty

IF you want to see a “retard”, look in the mirror. Do you dislike Christians and Jews? I guess you do. And, by the way, you do not know anybody’s religion! Many of us oppose Planned Parenthood because we believe that women deserve better than abortion and that men should support their kids.

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Mac

@Givemelibery Ideology doesn’t always work in reality. What you “believe” and “feel” doesn’t always meet up with facts truth and history. Get your head out of the sand. Killabee’s post is supported by fact, truth and history which are the three things Fox tells their retarded viewers they should scorn. That is exactly why you “believe”. Well, what you believe doesn’t trump truth, fact and history you retard. We all believe men should support their children and women deserve better.

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Scolar

Infants have already been born and cannot be aborted. You’re thinking of fetuses.

PETER P

By the way I am pro choice. My choice is “life” especially for those that have no one to advocate for them. I also try to do my part by contributing to several charities without making a “show” of my charity. I’m sure that the deviant elected to the CC will end up adopting an African baby ( from Africa) with his “wife”? All done in the name of diversity, love, hope and last but not least “VOTES”

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PETER P

South Side Johnny…spoken like a true liberal hypocrite——-“location and convenience” in other words a neighborhood free of people of color? I suppose that makes it a “nice” place.

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Mac

@Peter P Spoken just like an uninformed neo- con. You keep showwing that ignorance. You wear it like a badge of honor. You obviously just don’t know any better. Go and read the history and vocabulary lesson I posted for you, you uninformed under educated blowhard.

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Givemeliberty

Planned Parenthood’s founder, Margaret Sanger, supported eugenics and deliberately went first into ITALIAN and JEWISH neighborhoods and later into black and Hispanic ones. I believe this is called “racism”. You might try reading up on the history of Planned Parenthood.

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Seth

@southside johnny…CVS?..Duane Read?..Rite Aid?…Plenty of drug stores in the neighborhood as it relates to convenience…guess you’re the type that’s more interested in a handout

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Mac

@Seth “Handout” We see you’re prone to brainwashing through buzzwords. Did you know section 8 housing, food stamps and WIC are actually corporate handouts. Yes they are. They help corporations keep their wages low to increase the flow to company revenues to the top thus avoiding the invisible hand of the market. That has been sighted by just about every reputable economist for the number reason for income disparity (and still growing) in the US. “Handout” Hahahaha Turn off the TV you’ve allowed it to turn you into an idiot. Have some self respect you’ve lost your ability to deduce a simple argument with more then 2 variables or premises.

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David

Ok, then let’s slash entitlement programs to zero. Close public housing, eliminate food stamps, and refund the savings to tax payers. Works for me.

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SouthSideJohnny

Wow, that’s a great point. Maybe you’re right. A handout. Hmmmm….

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Seth

@ mac…”our homeless shelters and prisons are full of the consequences of unwanted pregnancies”..is it a coincidence that most of those people are black? ..A black woman being 5X more likely to have an abortion than a white female…Is it ethnic cleansing that you really are promoting Mac?…Once again shame on JVB

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SouthSideJohnny

Many people have used Planned Parenthood for birth control supplies, myself included. Both my girlfriend and I are white. Our visit to the office we went to had nothing to do with ethnicity but because of location and convenience.

Welcome, Planned Parenthood!

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Mac

@Seth We see you don’t travel very much. Check out Idaho, Kentucky and West Virginia and tell me the majority in the homeless shelters are not white. As for your ignorant ethnic cleansing remark. Here is a math equation you dimwit. Giuliani responded by citing a statistic from a 2010 Bureau of Justice Statistics report which did, indeed, conclude that 93 percent of black homicide victims from 1980 through 2008 were killed by black offenders. The statement implied that intraracial violence in black communities is uniquely bad. Giuliani later repeated this statistic in a FOX News interview. A Black male has a 1 in 21 chance of being murdered in his lifetime by age 65 (ref: Author Benjamin P Bowser and CDC) 93% of these men will be killed by other Black males, who the mass majority of these murderers are products of unwanted pregnancy.according to FBI and CDC. I know math and facts don’t matter to someone who doesn’t believe in science buts its one of factors used to help my determination. My determination is you’re the one condoning “ethnic cleansing” and my position is one that is curbing it. I know facts and statistics (reality) don’t matter much to an ignorant chest pounding self righteous blowhard. I don’t think any shame should fall on JVB but on you and your ignorance. This ignorance is promoting this “ethnic cleansing” and keeps the country from making any progress on this issue. Thank you JVB for standing up to loud mouth ignorant bullies.

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Casey

Awesome. Finally the community has a more efficient way to murder babies. Congrats baby killers.

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SouthSideJohnny

You only use the term “baby” for effect. since you can’t argue against the common sense that says a woman can terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

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Givemeliberty

You hate poor women, don’t you? As an elitist your probably think that only the wealth should reproduce.

Mac

@luvu2 yeah, but not reliably. I’m thinking about handing out morning after pills, do you want to help.

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Mac

@Moishe We need more planned parenthood and less self righteous analogies like you provided. Planned parenthood offers more then just abortion services. Whats your solution? Your ideology has filled our prisons, homeless shelters and treatment centers with the consequences of “unwanted” pregnancies. You’re the first to cry because of the cost in tax dollars and social decline an unwanted pregnancy costs but you’re either too stupid or stubborn to admit your failed ideology creates the very need for the programs you’re crying about. Your solution is nothing but the same tired old self righteous chest pounding that has done nothing but drive up crime and taxes. You’re probably, a right to lifer who supports the death penalty. Do you subscribe to typical Republican Con throw them back and get them when they’re bigger?

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David

Well, these pregnancies didn’t just happen out of nowhere. Two people made a very dumb decision to have unprotected sex and bring another future idiot into the world. My solution is to let the offspring starve – reduce welfare benefits to zero. It is how nature weeds out the stupid and ill equipped to survive. Or Planned Parenthood could simply sterilize its patrons so they don’t make the same mistake again. Either way works.

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Peter P

I really thought that Van Brammer was doing a good job. I did’nt vote for him but came to appreciate his efforts. Now I get punched in the face.This is a guy who openly flaunts his sexual proclivities, champion of the little guy ” the underdog”, protector of human rights, lover of perversion and decandence….whats worse is that I find myself agreeing with those two morons “Seth and ” Moses”
Van Brammer did you know that homosexuality was considered a mental illness until about 30 years ago? What if this place of hope had been in existence and your parents so inclined as to not give birth to a mentally ill child. So as to spare the child a lifetime of adversity and shame. Do you really think before speaking?

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Mac

@Peter P
pro·cliv·i·ty
prōˈklivədē,prəˈklivədē/
noun
plural noun: proclivities
a tendency to choose or do something regularly; an inclination or predisposition toward a particular thing.
“a proclivity for hard work”
Is being heterosexual a form of proclivity?

Before the High Middle Ages, homosexual acts appear to have been tolerated or ignored by the Christian church throughout Europe. Beginning in the latter twelfth century, however, hostility toward homosexuality began to take root, and eventually spread throughout European religious and secular institutions. Condemnation of homosexual acts (and other nonprocreative sexual behavior) as “unnatural,” which received official expression in the writings of Thomas Aquinas and others, became widespread and has continued through the present day (Boswell, 1980).
Religious teachings soon were incorporated into legal sanctions. Many of the early American colonies, for example, enacted stiff criminal penalties for sodomy, an umbrella term that encompassed a wide variety of sexual acts that were nonprocreative (including homosexual behavior), occurred outside of marriage (e.g., sex between a man and woman who were not married), or violated traditions (e.g., sex between husband and wife with the woman on top). The statutes often described such conduct only in Latin or with oblique phrases such as “wickedness not to be named”). In some places, such as the New Haven colony, male and female homosexual acts were punishable by death (e.g., Katz, 1976).

By the end of the 19th century, medicine and psychiatry were effectively competing with religion and the law for jurisdiction over sexuality. As a consequence, discourse about homosexuality expanded from the realms of sin and crime to include that of pathology. This historical shift was generally considered progressive because a sick person was less blameful than a sinner or criminal (e.g., Chauncey, 1982/1983; D’Emilio & Freedman, 1988; Duberman, Vicinus, & Chauncey, 1989).

Even within medicine and psychiatry, however, homosexuality was not universally viewed as a pathology. Richard von Krafft-Ebing described it as a degenerative sickness in his Psychopathia Sexualis, but Sigmund Freud and Havelock Ellis both adopted more accepting stances. Early in the twentieth century, Ellis (1901) argued that homosexuality was inborn and therefore not immoral, that it was not a disease, and that many homosexuals made outstanding contributions to society (Robinson, 1976).

Peter P That is why Homosexuality was deemed a mental illness. Please get informed. If you want to remain ignorant then keep your comments to yourself this way people don’t realize you’re ignorant they just think you’re just quiet and mindful.

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moishe

Finally we agree….”light and hope”? Hope for whom? Its a human slaughter house…because it has sky lights and Benjamin Moore paint that makes it warm and fuzzy….to kill those with no chance to defend themselves?…much like the sort who break champagne bottles on nuclear submarines….wonder if they ever stop to think of the horror these machines are designed to unleash
Hey JVB….I’ll go hunting when the deers have guns!

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Seth

” Full of light and air”..” it’s really about hope”…what a sick and demented description that is….JVB you deserve the gold medal for managing to be more absurd then your colleague Melissa Mark Vivertos. ….Shame on you!!!

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Givemeliberty

People can now kill their babies “in the light and air.” Van Bramer is a sicko.

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Sunnysider

This is nice, I hope more people took advantage of these clinics instead of assuming they have no other choice. It’s sad that we only hear about this here, instead of posters and flyers around the neighborhood.

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Craic Dealer

Abortion is legal because the government declares the baby as not a person. So a class of humanity can be killed by another class of humanity. That was the logic for slavery in the US and for 1940’s Germany.

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El loco

Craic Dealer – you never fail to come up with stupid comments. Comparing abortion to enslaving a people and murdering a group of people. You are a true idiot. Are you and your friends going to bomb this place?

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Craic Dealer

El loco: Your comments prove that you belong on the playground with 6 year olds that happened to not be aborted. Maybe the higher brained discussions can be saved for the humans. Run along, boy.

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Moi

Aaaaaaand only one comment in before the anti-choice neanderthals who are too feeble-minded to understand what Planned Parenthood actually do crawl out of their cave. Put your head back up your “craic,” where it usually stays

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Mac

@Craic Dealer Your warped thinking on the issue is just ridiculous. This was not at all the logic for slavery in the US or 1940’s Germany. Pick up a history book you uninformed blowhard. Oh you may want to consult the Bible on these issues as well you Fox informed chest pounding fool. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:7

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT). You blowhards are the first to yell and scream about the cost of an unwanted child to society in the form of taxes and social breakdown. Take your ignorant uninformed chest pounding crusade some place else we’re tied of hearing you self righteous phonies.

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Craic Dealer

Mac: Haha! Where’s the logic in your emotional rant? As a US Constitutionalist/BIll of Rights Member (completely different from sheeple Republicans), you may want to bring some substance. The bible… LOL!

Why not rant about Roe V Wade? LOL Maybe because Democrats are sheelpe as well.

Its great to only have a two party system because its easier to control.

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Mac

@Craic Hahaha Nice but very weak try. I am responding to your post specifically. You know the one confusing “class” and “generation”. Sorry silly but I graduated college a long long time ago and debating these issues were laid to rest back then. I know Fox News likes to keep its followers abreast in dead issues to help retard their mental capacity even more. Enjoy Benghazi. Hahahaha

Craic Dealer

@ Mac: The issue is that the courts were unsettled to decide if a baby in the womb is a person or not so they decided that it isn’t a person rather than it is a person. An abortion is also legal because they said that there is privacy between doctor and patient. Like an owner of a slave (private property) was in US history. Like a Jewish business owner in 1940’s German.

When can the government say YOU’RE not a person, Mac?

When obstetricians are first taught about delivery they’re told that there are two patients; the mother and baby.

Mac

@Craic Dealer
Your quote to el loco was “Maybe the higher brained discussions can be saved for the humans. Run along, boy.” Your quote”Mother and baby”? is how I simplified the topic of human reproduction to my children when they asked questions as very young children Hahaha How arrogant are you? Your posts seems to be pretty adolescent in context. You still feel superior enough to insult el loco. The medical and legal term even when obstetricians are first taught is “Fetal viability” which depends largely on the fetal organ maturity, and environmental conditions.

According to Websters Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language, viability of a fetus means having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus. Viability exists as a function of bio-medical and technological capacities, which are different in different parts of the world. As a consequence, there is, at the present time, no worldwide, uniform gestational age that defines viability.

Craic Dealer

@Mac: Great copying and pasting to avoid the point! Help us all if you’re actually spawning. When the sperm meets the egg there is a creation of a human genome that is the genetic start of a person. If the founding documents state life, libert and property you have zero hope if you can’t even defend the defensless.

Today, Mac, you’re a person. Tomorrow you’re NOT a person because… maybe of your income or life style.

Mac

@craic dealer You and your posts are ridiculous. Just absurd. Thank “God” for the anonymity of the internet or you could really publicly humiliate yourself.

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rikki

craic…..the #1 reason women need abortions is…………….they willingly have unprotected sex with a DEADBEAT.

and most women know he is a DEADBEAT so women need to grow up and learn how to have sex with real men, who would MAN UP and support the potential child.

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A.Bundy

or you can ban abortions and pay way WAY more taxes to support them on welfare and to hire more cops since crime would go up. Enjoy!! ROFL!

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