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108 Precinct cracks down on cyclists, issues more than 100 summonses this month

April 26, By Christian Murray

Following the death and injury of two bicyclists in Sunnyside earlier this month, the 108 Police Precinct has stepped up its enforcement of law-breaking cyclists.

The precinct, which covers Sunnyside, Woodside and Long Island City, issued 147 summonses to cyclists for the 28-day period ending April 23, compared to just 14 for the same period in 2016.

Captain Ralph Forgione, the commander of the precinct, said at the Community Council Meeting in Sunnyside last night that his officers have increased their traffic enforcement and have been ticketing both bicyclists and motorists for going through red lights, failing to yield and a multitude of other traffic-related offenses.

Forgione said that the death of Gelacio Reyes, a bicyclist who was struck and killed by a drunk driver at 43rd Avenue and 39th Street on April 1, was a catalyst for enforcement. He said that Reyes had gone through a red light at the time of the tragedy, which played a role in his death.

Just 10 days later, David Nunez was critically injured at the same 39th Street location when a box truck that was turning plowed into him—a further indicator that enforcement was needed, Forgione said.

Officers were out ticketing drivers and bicyclists at that intersection on April 12, a day after Nunez was hit.

Angela Stach, a Jackson Heights resident who is a member of Transportation Alternatives, said that the ticket blitz sent the wrong message to cyclists. “By ticketing cyclists, the day after the cyclist was maimed gave the signal that we were at fault. It was disrespectful.”

Forgione responded by saying that the precinct was just enforcing the laws.

Stach said that bicyclists must contend with cars that double park–blocking bike lanes– speed, as well as go through red lights. She said that 43rd Avenue is an area that the precinct needs to pay attention to in terms of double parking.

Forgione said that the precinct has also increased its ticketing of motorists. The precinct issued 1,076 tickets for moving violations for the 28-day period ending April 23, up 13 percent from the same period a year ago.

Several residents at the Community Council Meeting were critical of cyclists.

Carol Terrano, who lives in Maspeth, complained to Forgione about wayward bicyclists.

“I recently had a bicyclist crash into my car while I was stopped at a light,” she said. “I had $2,500 worth of damage and the person didn’t have penny so I had to eat it.”

Terrano said that cyclists “should have to pay their way, by having insurance, being licensed and being mandated to wear safety equipment. The person who rode into my car didn’t have safety equipment.”

She called for legislation that would require bicyclists to wear helmets.

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100 Comments

A clean record and good driver

We as good drivers with no record should be very worried. Because if the driver is found guilty for the death of the cyclist, that means even if the driver was driving with the green light in his favor and the cyclist breaking the law and passing the red light on a cold raining windy day wearing no proper outfit. We as drivers can get hit with the same charges even if we have a clean record. There should be some accountability for the cyclist considering he broke the law resulting in his death. Had he stop and looked both ways he still could be alive. We as drivers now are more at fault even if we the cyclist lives or not. It’s scary because we are drivers who follow the law and let peds or cyclist cross before us yet they don’t follow the laws of the traffic. There needs to be some accountability that’s all I’m saying because it will not be favor for good drivers to experience this matter and the good drivers getting the whole blame.




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Anonymous

This is bullsh*t. Honestly the cops should just say the cyclist ran a red light being the main reason for his death. But no we try to not make it so truth and hurtful. Take away everything, say if the driver stay and wasn’t drunk. Would it even matter the cops said that emt came right away 10-13 mins it usually takes 15-20 minutes. They say there is a witness? How can some see so good and prefect if supposedly the car was speeding and it was raining that night and windy. It sounds way to suspicious to me. No way unless it was preplan and so. The cops should release the Autopsy report and to insure us the cyclist wasn’t drunk. I’m not defending the driver I’m just to suspicious about the whole thing.




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coced

Why don’t we stop pointing fingers at one another and try to be responsible – bicyclists, motorists, pedestrians, police officers – in our own place?!
total disregard for others, behaving in a “I do (drive, ride, etc.) only what I like and don’t give a damn about you!” manner is the real cause of many our troubles, including road accidents…




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The real Eric

I did not write that comment. I don’t responses with a negative or stupid comment. I state what the facts are. Not argue or complain or accept comments. Or comment in a negative way to anyone.




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Sweetleaf intersection LIC, gonna kill someone

I was walking home Fr after work and in front of Sweetleaf in LIC the crosswalk lights I see confused a cyclist because one corner said GO and the next corner, 15 ft away, said STOP to people at the cross walk.

So a taxi came ripping around the bend towards that Pulaski bridge and a cyclist ran full speed into the taxi side. He did get up and yelled towards the taxi.

Luckily he ran into the taxi door, if he was a few seconds earlier and he would have been in front and probably dead.

I saw it before my eyes and the taxi was right, but driving fast. The biker was probably confused by the two crosswalk signs. I have to say the bike didnt even hesitate at the crosswalk which is pretty reckless and stupid also.




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Anonymous

Bike riders just don’t want any rules so your wasting your time trying to make sense to them.




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Anonymous

Dont you guys realize why this ticket blitz was done? To get bicycle people to wake up and take the laws of the road seriously. They think that they are exempt from these laws. Pay attention, it may save your life. Also they dont want registration,license,insurance,ect because they are afraid it might cost them a few dollars. They should be registered so if there is an accident they can be identified. So simple, yet the only ones against it are the bike riders.




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Anonymous

It’s hypocritical to see the whiner cyclists complain about cars yet they are the ones who continually break the laws and never stop at red lights or yield to pedestrians. I’ve been nearly hit several times by cyclists flying around full speed running red lights or going the opposite direction as I try to cross the road. Zero remorse if these morons get ticketed or creamed by a truck.




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Lance Armstrong

The reason more cyclists got tickets than motorists in the same month & same location is because MORE cyclists broke the traffic laws!

End of story!




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Eric

I have been following the case since it happen. I took the bikers side at first but looking at just the case and facts given by the police and not what previously happen or years back just the case itself. The biker gets out at 12 like the brother in law had stated to the news. What was he doing at 245 am heading home when its only an hour commute from the restaurant he worked at and given it was pass midnight there is very little traffic why was he out so late. Now I’m a family guy I work take my kids to school and love my family and yes I work till midnight as well, and I work in NJ so my commute is longer. I pay for bus and ride back home in bike. The latest I get home is 220. Saying that, yes the driver may have been drunk but he hasn’t been charge with it because he has a record but did he pass the field test that the cops decide to charge him with refusing the breathalyzer? Now was the biker wearing proper equipment? When it shows the picture all it shows is the bike no helmet or color vest or any comment that it broke or if he was wearing. Unless there is a website that has pictures of it? Now with those facts, I start thinking to myself what if the bike was a car? Would it still be the supposedly drunk driver’s fault the cyclist is death? Now it’s cars not a bike and car, I say that because I’m only looking at the case and not cyclist breaking laws or motorist needing to be more careful. When a car hits a car because it pass the red light, it’s 100% the fault of the driver who pass the red light not the one who had the green light. That’s how the case is being seen because as much as I hate to say it, it looks to me that the cyclist cause his own death and not the driver. Now a key factor would be was the cyclist drinking? There is going to be a record of it if he was but will be only in the hands of the people investigating the case so I doubt it will go public. If he was then the case will drop and no charges should not be made. I only mention it because I drink and ride my bike home, after 10-12 hour shifts I have more then I should. I don’t want to hear any negative comments honestly but it’s facts against opinions. It is exactly how I see the case going, given all the facts the drunk driver would have been locked up and not free. So if you’re not a person with high level of experience your opinion wouldn’t matter to me I don’t argue I see the facts even if I disagree with it. It’s the way laws were meant to be.




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rikki

as i stated above who hit who? it doesn’t matter if one or both are drunk, if they stayed in their proper lanes there would have been no accident.




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Eric

Had the bicyclist stop and waited the red light he would have been alive. We are talking about the case itself not about how the other day some guy drove through a red light or the guy riding a bike goes through a red light. It’s the case itself. Because it’s the truth even as much as I hate to say it, it’s 100% the fault of the cyclist. Had he obey the law and waited his turn the guy would be alive. Now it doesn’t matter if the guy was drunk, it’s true because what if the cyclist was riding a car and not a bike? What then? How would it be seen in everyone’s eyes? Both motorist drunk and the motorist passing the red light 100% at fault. Very different view. Looking at the damages of the car, it looks like the car was pass and the cyclist came in contact to the passengers fender side which means the car was already out and the cyclist should have been able to hear or seen the car from a distance. A very harsh factor if they get a specialist to do a impact report the driver would be clear and save from being the reason of his death. There is a bicycle lane on the right side of 43rd ave meaning the cyclist should be able to see the light of the cars coming at the most. Unless he was riding his bike on the left side of the lane (where there is no bike lane and no way of seeing if cars are coming since the buildings block the view) then he would obviously have no vision especially since it was raining that day. We can discuss back and forward but in the end of the day if the evidence shows the cyclist passing a red light you need to think and realize either he wanted to get hit, was drunk or broke the law. The case is clear with just the evidence as much as I hate to say it. This is why there are red lights and stop signs to avoid these kinds of disasters. Had the motorist passed a yellow light then it’s likely the fault of the motorist. It doesn’t state that anywhere meaning the motorist had a green light in his favor.




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Crabby Appleton

In NYC, accidents at intersections are affected by “Contributory Negligence”. Both parties are considerd guilty, it is the degree of guilt that is determined by a Judge (or possibly a Jury) using the criteria of “did each party do everything possible to avoid the accident”. The percentage of Contributory Negligence is then decided.




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rikki

Remember people we still DON’T KNOW WHO HIT WHO!

Did the driver hit the biker in the bike lane or did the biker hit the car in the car lane.




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Bike rider and driver

Bikes should be licensed and insured, just as any other vehicle. When a bike is violating the law, they can be identified, just as any other vehicle. All then will be responsible for their actions.




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melinda

What happens if we continue to crackdown on cyclists?
– people will take the car or the train.




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george kelly

Anonymous, you are correct my invisible, unknown friend……I hate to say it ,my ghost like opinionated friend…THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE..CORRECT!!!!!!!!.AND INFRASTRUCTURE CANT HANDLE IT!!!!!!!ANONYMOUS YOU ARE RIGHT!!!GIVE HE OR SHE A CUPIE DOLL….THANKS..FIRST TIME I AGREED WITH YOU.OPEN CONVERSATION SOOTHES THE SOUL….




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Cars are people too

Let’s be realistic here, how often do you see people on bicycles stopping for a red light?! You have to obey the same laws as everyone else.




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bikes are people too

It’s a lot easier to stop a 10lb bike than a 2000lb car. More times that not good cyclists do follow the laws, but if we are talking about following laws, then how about cars stop driving in the bike lanes. You ever ridden a bike on Northern Blvd? It’s freaking frightening…




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electronic bikes belong in the street

There has not been a day I have lived in Sunnyside the last 15 years that I have not seen an electronic bike rapidly zipping down a sidewalk. Stay off the sidewalk. Use the bike lanes that have been provided. No adult should be on any kind of bike on the sidewalk at all. It’s dangerous and irresponsible.




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dirk

Personally, I think the way forward is not to browbeat or ticket cyclists but to educate drivers and people who cross the street on the way that traffic works.




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Anonymous

Do you idiots in favor of cars not walk? So, would it be suffice to say that you don’t bitch and moan when a car doesn’t stop for you or takes a red? Wow, the stupid arguments most of you posted were a great laugh. 108 targeting cyclists is like targeting the stabbing victim for getting attacked…bunch of jokers!




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ninethreesix

A cyclist is killed by a drunk driver, and the response is to crack down on cyclists. Right, that makes a ton of sense. Great work keeping us safe, guys.

Yes, some cyclists can be a nuisance, but the notion that that’s a higher priority than drivers who actually maim and kill people is insane. It’s just an easy way for the police to pretend like they’re doing something useful, because solving real problems is hard.




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rikki

I agree with george kelly. Bike lanes should be protected and the police should not be ticketing bike riders. I’ve seen them ticket the bikes, as cars run stop signs and make illegal turns right next to them. Get real, and find someone else to pick on. Police should not waste our tax money targeting bicycles just because a drunk driver killed a family man.
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rikki

People that ride motorcycles claim to be outlaws, but they cry about getting a ticket, and stubbornly support law and order republicans who play them for the fools they are. Suckers. Haha
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Samson

The fact that 17 people disliked this comment is indicative of just how strongly many cyclists believe that every bike vs. car accident is the driver’s fault – no matter how reckless the cyclist is on the road. Disliking the ticketing of law breakers? That’s pretty ignorant and self-absorbed.




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bettyK

Most cyclists obey the law and most motorists look out for cyclists too but as a cyclist I always have my helmet and static cameras on when I ride my bicycle because it’a jungle out there and they take no prisoners.




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moormab

Police will do something for a little while, but then ignore it and go back to whatever it is they do.




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george kelly

Again,kudos to 108 House,Capt.Forgione is finally addressing broken windows policy that Mayor Deblasio and Commissioner O Neil had gotten rid of…QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES SAVE LIVES..NOW LETS GET FOOT POST ESTABLISHED IN ALL OF THE PRECINCT… THANKS TO YOU P.D..LETS KEEP IT UP..LISTEN TO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE..THANK GOD..FINALLY




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Tired of bikes

More often than not cyclists don’t obey the lights nor yield to pedestrians. It’s ridiculous. And it is ridiculous that they ride on the sidewalks!!!!! What the hell??!!! Im glad they got ticketed! I wish the 108 would continue to do it. The city would make a killing in revenue.




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rikki

NO YOU DON’T….its called small claims court sue the bike rider get a judgment and have a sheriff attach it from his paycheck……..no need for your insurance rates to go up..

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I recently had a bicyclist crash into my car while I was stopped at a light,” she said. “I had $2,500 worth of damage and the person didn’t have penny so I had to eat it.”




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Wolfsbane

It’s damn hard to do that because it difficult to id cyclists and bicycles without licenses and plates. If their ride isn’t damaged, they just ride off.




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kerrylad

I bike to and from work every day in this City… and every day I see obstructions in bike lanes, and I actually DO follow the signals and lights. When I have the right of way guess what I see? Peds walking when they shouldn’t looking down at their tech devices. I have to yell at them to get out of the way or to “look alive”. Taxis crowd up my bike lanes every morning forcing me to ride in traffic between cars, trucks taxis and than some. The funniest parts are when cop cars block bike lanes or when they obstruct bike lanes with other NYPD equipment.
I get it, some cyclists can be straight up d-bags… but not all of us are villains. Pedestrians can be just as D-Baggish as some bikers are.




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Marge

I’ve come close to being struck by a bicycle on ditmars and 29th street two different times. The cyclists ran the red light as I was crossing. And the beautiful bike lane on 20th Ave? Cyclists are barely using it. They ride up the street on the opposite side of the bike lane. The street is narrow enough without making it more difficult to drive because cars have to go wide around a cyclist who won’t ride in the designated bike lanes.




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koreyco

The police tend to be all or none on this issue, either ignoring all violations or looking to make a point and giving cyclists huge fines for nuanced or arguable violations. I don’t blame the police who are merely responding to the politicians, but some common sense is certainly in order.




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El loco

Great idea, but I wish it were to protect pedestrians not bicyclists. Real El loco.




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juanita

Vision Zero: This policy is supposed to be in place to help pedestrians and cyclists stay safe, yet rarely are motorists the target of any crackdowns!! Cyclists many who are making delivers get a raw deal in our city and this is a prime example.




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John k

Cyclists constantly breaking the laws on our local roads. Sick of avoiding this people as they break lights when I am trying to walk over the road. Dam right to fine them.




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Trek

Doesn’t make sense cracking down on cyclists, because drunk drivers are killing cyclists and pedestrians.Just another way for NYC to take money the working people, it’s disgraceful. Go catch the bad guys, instead of harassing citizens.




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Anonymous

Some judge would just say it’s unconstitutional to ask bicyclist to get license and registration.




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Anonymous

Good it’s about time. Dogs are supposed to be licensed, so should bikes, it would actually protect the bike rider but try to get it thru their unhelmeted heads. Bikes need to be licensed, insured and registered as should any vehicle that’s on a public street.




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Eurozone

I understand what you’re saying but more bureaucracy isn’t a solution to protecting cyclists. If safety improvements & better street designs were implemented then there wouldn’t be a need for regulating biking nor will we be talking about problems such as injuries & fatalities in regards to motorist actions.




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Me

While I don’t like to see bikers break all sort of laws and put themselves and others in danger, I agree that this city deserves protected and segregated bike lanes. So if they want to do the bike lanes right, they have to make it proper. Just drawing few lines on busy avenues and boulevards do not make them immediately safe. It just does not work that way. Would you walk on those lanes if they were walkways? No, right? So why do lawmakers and city designers expect bikers to bike down those dangerous lanes 10mph while cars zip by them at 40-50mph? City had a good thing going on with queens blvd bike lanes extension, but even that got screwed up. They narrowed the service road, made it still too dangerous for cars and bikes to take those “stop and merge” ramps and caused frustration overall. Look at the wasted area between queens blvd and the service roads? It’s amazing really. If they want to serve the bikers, build those 100% divided and safe bike lanes, and then we’ll see how things go. They are creating the bikes vs drivers war.




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Crabby Appleton

Motorists pay for the privilege to use the streets through Registration fees, Licencing fees, Fuel taxes and Mandatory Insurance. When all of those criteria are met by Bicyclists, then they should be allowed to “Share the road”, and not before. Keep them on the sidewalk, and limit them to pedestrian speeds.




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david

You love cars so much, let’s strap your mouth to the back of an exhaust pipe and see how long you last. Do you even care that you are destroying the environment? Doubt it. Bikers are saving the planet, you are destroying it.




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Me

A lot of angry bikers dislike’s Styn’s post above, and I am not surprised. These are the people who think they have right to ride on the sidewalks, against the traffic, or on the crosswalk like pedestrians not to mention zipping in and out of cars, trying to pass a car that’s turning right and the worst is they ride at night without any kind of reflective gear or lights.

It’s not only the bikers, those e-bike delivery people drive on wrong direction all the time, one day I almost ran over one when I turned left on one way and he was riding fast down the street. If I didn’t take the turn wide enough he’d be squished.

Bikers must be educated and regulated, that’s a fact. While getting them licensed and registered is a big challenge (most of them don’t want to pay a dime that’s why they are on bikes in the first place, not for their fitness) but at least there should be a program to reward bikers who register or get tags of some sort, believe me drivers will respect those bikers much more, knowing that they are respectful of the laws and care enough to get tags or stickers of some sort.




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truckdriver

As someone who has driven a delivery truck in Queens for many years, I can assure you that the increase in traffic after the installation of protected bike lanes many years ago was nothing compared to the increase in traffic after the proliferation of Uber and competing companies. You could ban all bikes and remove all the bike lanes and traffic would remain a shit show.




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Anonymous

So the onus is solely on the bikers. If bikers behave then drivers will respect them and not kill them. Consider that if drivers behaved and there was decent infrastructure the bikers wouldn’t be doing half the things you describe. Also, bikers piss me off too but I’m smart enough to understand the problem is poor street design and lack of enforcement of MOTOR VEHICLES




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Styn

Me — I don’t know if you understood my post. I think all people should have to wear stickers and get registered. Like, say for instance you should have to wear a badge on your shirt letting people know what religion you are. What could go wrong?




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Sunnysider

Cars kill and bicyclists don’t (with the VERY rare exception). I see cars speeding and running red lights ALL THE TIME. In 2 years there have been 2 horrible car crashes at 43rd Street and Skillman Ave right by a playground and I have seen zero enforcement of reckless driving at that intersection. Bikes don’t scare me, out of control cars do.




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Neziah Bliss

I’m in favor of being stricter on both motorists and cyclists. And while we’re at it, can we make it illegal in this city to drive OVERLY LOUD MOTORCYCLES! These motorcycles are illegally made extra loud and set off car alarms and make life miserable for everyone. Maybe, just maybe, we could agree that the city with the highest population density is the one place where a Harley with no Muffler isn’t allowed.




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law-abiding cyclist

A drunk driver hits a cyclist and a turning truck hits another, and the response is to issue 10 TIMES as many tickets to cyclists, and increase the ticketing of cars by just 10%? Absolute madness. Cars were the dangerous (and in one case lethal) weapon in both of those cases—not wayward cyclists.

Also, I find it hard to imagine how a cyclist could hit a stationary vehicle and cause $2,500 of damage, but I’m pretty sure the absence of a helmet was not the problem there.




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BICYCLE RIGHTS...I'M ON A BIKE

Maybe if drivers in Queens weren’t all completely brain dead and we had decent bike lanes, cyclists wouldn’t have to be riding so recklessly. Hey, you in the obnoxious BMW doing 60 in a 20 zone. Be more considerate to others around you… Jackass car drivers.

Also this is probably JVB’s fault, built that wall.




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Anonymous

And you still wouldn’t obey the law and sit at a red light until it turns green. They should ticket the speeding BMW and you.




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BICYCLE RIGHTS...I'M ON A BIKE

Maybe if drivers in Queens weren’t all completely brain dead and we had decent bike lanes, cyclists wouldn’t have to be riding so recklessly. Hey, you in the obnoxious BMW doing 60 in a 20 zone. Be more considerate to others around you… Jackass car drivers.

Also this is probably JVB’s fault, built that wall.




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Santiago

I ride as well as run thru this intersection every single day. There are always cars going thru with the red light specially making that left turn. I guess is easier to ticket cyclists. Shameful




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yesenia

If you’re going to set enforcement priorities based on risk, bikes don’t even enter the equation.




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Anonymous

Cars sometimes run red lights. It doesn’t happen that often, but it does happen. Cyclists run every single red light. Every single one. They may ease up when a car with the right of way is there, but otherwise they never obey the rules of the road. They ignore lights and go the wrong way on one way streets. If cyclists acted like the vehicles they are, everyone would be safer. I feel for cyclists who get hit, but if they always sit and wait at red lights like a proper vehicle, it would happen a lot less often.




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Anonymous

Exactly! They want to change the rules of the road to suit their vehicles, but they are fitting in to an existing system. Change happens slowly. I was completely pro bike when this started, but I see too many bikers abuse the system and give everyone the finger. Be reasonable. Most cars stop. Most pedestrians stop. Most bikes need to stop, too. Even when there is no one coming the other way and even when no one is watching.




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Wolfsbane

As far as I’m concerned they should station plainclothes police at intersections with a carbine loaded with rubber bullets. When cyclists run red lights and ride on the wrong side of the road, paste them good with a couple of rounds.




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Crabby Appleton

They want to share the road? They should have insurance. They pay no attention to the rule “No passing on the right”, that is why they get hit at intersections. Bicyclists rarely pay attention to the signal lights on trucks or autos and try to pass vehicles that are slowing to make a legal turn. Get rid of bike lanes or get them to have insurance.




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Matt

Ticketing double parked cars in the bike lane on Skillman would be appreciated by both the cycling and running community.




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Me

Tell that to business. How do you expect people to stop and pick up something with no parking anywhere? Maybe they should put meters on every road where there is a bike lane, and make it 30 minute maximum parking? If they really care about bike lanes, instead of trying to impress bikers with unsafe lanes, they should make protected lanes.




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Anonymous

But not to merchants and shoppers. How about both cyclists and runners slow down and look around them then choose the safe option? You are responsible for your own safety.




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Wolfsbane

@Cars are people too

No it’s not. It’s illegal to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk, moron.




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Matt

park in a parking spot or block the car lane. those are for cars, douchebag.




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Styn

Finally! I agree with Ms Terrano, if they are going to ride their bicycles on the city streets then they should be lawfully regulated the same as motorcycles and cars.




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El Loco

How about all the damn hippies and mexicans in cars and motorcycles crowding up the food stamp lines?

#MAGA #DOWNWITHJVB #BUILDTHATWALL #CYCLISTRIGHTS




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Psycholist

For someone to think that they are being ticketed because someone else died is so revealing on how IRRESPOSABLE and twisted these Psycholists are because they are still breaking a traffic law!!!! You’re getting a traffic ticket because you broke a traffic law, not because you’re a murderer. Immature!




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Long time resident

The long lines shouldn’t worry you loco, you will get your food stamps and any other benefits a person who is mentally disabled like yourself gets.




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bueaux

When vehicles do strike and kill cyclists and pedestrians, the police response has historically been to crack down on bikes!!!




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Long time resident

And this has happened because historically cyclists and pedestrians do not get ticketed and are left alone, and the only way for cyclists and pedestrians to get the message is to ticket them otherwise they assume incorrectly that they are immune to the rules of the road.




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Dan

As a cyclist and motorist. Cars are more at fault then anything we have to deal with more dangers with taxis and rude, cocky or just clueless drivers who don’t know the proper rules. I’ll admit I’m not reckless but I do enjoy the real freedom of cycling, speeding through red lights, moving around cars and being honest telling off drivers who dont know how to drive with a cyclist on the road. But in a car I know the amount of space a cyclist would need know that around the corner a cyclist much like myself could be right there. Either waiting for traffic to clear to proceed or wait for the green light. It’s driver instinct and knowledge at that point. So people complain about rude cyclists Hey we complain about clueless drivers it’s new york focus on driving safe and riding safe




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Doug

Dan if as you say you are “speeding through red lights, moving around cars” then you are more at fault.




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Long time resident

by you saying “I’ll admit I’m not reckless” and ” I do enjoy the real freedom of cycling, speeding through red lights,” is they definition of a oxymoron, being reckless and just being a plain old moron in general, and stop blaming drivers for your stupidity.




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